Antalya 2004 (60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min)-crosstable a

[Sedat Canbaz]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Sedat Canbaz at 05 August 2004 00:40:35:


Conditions:
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* AMD Athlon XP 2400+,Pentium 4 2.4 GHz
* Fritz 8 GUI
* Round-Robin System-2 Cycles
* 60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min
* Perfect v5.0.ctg for all
* 256 MB HashTable
* 3 & 4 and 5 Men EGTB
* TB Cache : 32 MB
* Resign on
* Ponder off
* Book learning off
* All games are played on separatly computers(no autoplayer is used)

Details about some versions :
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* CM9 T05 is a personality created by Kurt Utzinger, Rolf Bühler
* Chess Tiger 15.0 is Normal Style
* Junior 8 is 8.0.0.2
* Rebel 12 is 12.00.01 with Beta 9 personality
* Crafty 19.14 is CB Native
* Delfi 4.5 with 64 MB Hash
* Thinker 4.6c with 128 MB Hash

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Rank Engine Score Sh De Ju Ru Re Li Hi Ar De CM SO Ch Kt Cr Sm Ya De An Th Pa Ga Ni
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1: Shredder 8 20.0 / 27 XX 1. =. =1 1= 11 =. 1. =. 0. 1. 11 =. =. 1. 1. 1. 0. 1. 0= 1. 11
2: Deep Fritz 8 19.0 / 27 0. XX 1. =0 1. =. 0. 1. =1 1. 1. 1. =. 11 1. =. 01 =1 1. 1. =1 =.
3: Junior 8 17.5 / 27 =. 0. XX 0. 1. 1. =. 0= =. 01 1. 1= == =. 1. =. 1. =1 11 1. 1. =.
4: Ruffian 2.1.0 16.5 / 27 =0 =1 1. XX =0 1. 0. =. =. =. 0= 1. =. 1. =. 11 1. 0. 1. 10 1. 1.
5: Rebel 12b9 16.5 / 27 0= 0. 0. =1 XX 0. 0. 1. 0. 1. =1 =. =. 1. 10 11 11 =. 1. 1. =. 1.
6: List 512 16.0 / 27 00 =. 0. 0. 1. XX =1 10 =. 0. =. =. 1. 1. 1= =0 1. 1. 1= 1. 1. 1.
7: Hiarcs 9 15.5 / 27 =. 1. =. 1. 1. =0 XX == =. 01 0. == 1. =0 =. 1. 0. 11 =. 1. 0. 1.
8: Aristarch 4.50 15.5 / 27 0. 0. 1= =. 0. 01 == XX 0. 1. =. =. == 0. 1. 1. =. 1. =1 =. 11 1.
9: Delfi 4.5 15.0 / 27 =. =0 =. =. 1. =. =. 1. XX == 1. 10 =. 0= 0. .. == 11 0. 01 1. 1.
10: CM9 T05 14.5 / 27 1. 0. 10 =. 0. 1. 10 0. == XX 1. 1. == 0. 10 1. =. 1. =. 1. == 0.
11: SOS 4 for Arena 14.5 / 27 0. 0. 0. 1= =0 =. 1. =. 0. 0. XX =. 1. 11 1. 01 =. =. =. =1 =. 1=
12: Chess Tiger 15.0 13.5 / 27 00 0. 0= 0. =. =. == =. 01 0. =. XX 0. 1. 1. =. 10 =. 1. 1. 11 1.
13: Ktulu 5.1 13.0 / 27 =. =. == =. =. 0. 0. == =. == 0. 1. XX 0. 00 10 0. 1. =1 1. 1. 1.
14: Crafty 19.14 12.0 / 27 =. 00 =. 0. 0. 0. =1 1. 1= 1. 00 0. 1. XX =. 0. == 0. 1. 1. =1 0.
15: SmarThink 0.17a 11.5 / 27 0. 0. 0. =. 01 0= =. 0. 1. 01 0. 0. 11 =. XX 1. 0. =. =. 00 =. 11
16: Yace 0.99.87 11.5 / 27 0. =. =. 00 00 =1 0. 0. .. 0. 10 =. 01 1. 0. XX =. == 1. 11 .. 10
17: Deep Sjeng 1.6 11.0 / 27 0. 10 0. 0. 00 0. 1. =. == =. =. 01 1. == 1. =. XX 00 =. 1. 0. =.
18: Anaconda 1.6.2 10.5 / 27 1. =0 =0 1. =. 0. 00 0. 00 0. =. =. 0. 1. =. == 11 XX 0. .. == =.
19: Thinker 4.6c 10.0 / 27 0. 0. 00 0. 0. 0= =. =0 1. =. =. 0. =0 0. =. 0. =. 1. XX 10 1. 11
20: Patriot 1.2.3 8.0 / 27 1= 0. 0. 01 0. 0. 0. =. 10 0. =0 0. 0. 0. 11 00 0. .. 01 XX =. 0.
21: Gandalf 5.1 8.0 / 27 0. =0 0. 0. =. 0. 1. 00 0. == =. 00 0. =0 =. .. 1. == 0. =. XX 01
22: Nimzo 8 7.5 / 27 00 =. =. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0= 0. 0. 1. 00 01 =. =. 00 1. 10 XX
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297 games: +110 =98 -89
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All games are available for downloading at:
SedatChess
Kind Regards,
Sedat Canbaz

[Kurt Utzinger]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 05 August 2004 06:58:35:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Antalya 2004 (60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min)-crosstable after 27th round: geschrieben von:/posted by: Sedat Canbaz at 05 August 2004 00:40:35:


Hi Sedat
Great tournament: surprising Rebel 12 and disappointing
CM9_T05. I hope you have not created a separate UCI-engine
for this setting and included the parameters under [EXTRAS]
which brings wrong results. People should use Manfred Meiler's
pre-set-up method with text files http://www.computerschach.de/freeware/theking.zip.
Or is CM9_T05 just suffering from a dizzy spell?
Kind regards
Kurt


Kurt & Rolf Chess

[Jason Kent]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Jason Kent at 05 August 2004 18:50:55:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Antalya 2004 (60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min)-crosstable after 27th round: geschrieben von:/posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 05 August 2004 06:58:35:

Hi Sedat
Great tournament: surprising Rebel 12 and disappointing
CM9_T05. I hope you have not created a separate UCI-engine
for this setting and included the parameters under [EXTRAS]
which brings wrong results. People should use Manfred Meiler's
pre-set-up method with text files http://www.computerschach.de/freeware/theking.zip.
Or is CM9_T05 just suffering from a dizzy spell?
Kind regards
Kurt

Kurt,
I did a little testing on T05 and found it kind of weak against free engines like ruffian and list512. Maybe it was optimized more towards commercial programs like fritz8 and shredder8? All of the cm9k settings have weaknesses. Even R1 and other supurb settings sometimes finish poorly.

[Kurt Utzinger]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 05 August 2004 19:34:36:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Antalya 2004 (60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min)-crosstable after 27th round: geschrieben von:/posted by: Jason Kent at 05 August 2004 18:50:55:

Hi Sedat
Great tournament: surprising Rebel 12 and disappointing
CM9_T05. I hope you have not created a separate UCI-engine
for this setting and included the parameters under [EXTRAS]
which brings wrong results. People should use Manfred Meiler's
pre-set-up method with text files http://www.computerschach.de/freeware/theking.zip.
Or is CM9_T05 just suffering from a dizzy spell?
Kind regards
Kurt

Kurt,
I did a little testing on T05 and found it kind of weak against free engines like ruffian and list512. Maybe it was optimized more towards commercial programs like fritz8 and shredder8? All of the cm9k settings have weaknesses. Even R1 and other supurb settings sometimes finish poorly.

Hi Jason
Of course: all settings have weaknesses. As to your question: no,
CM9_T05 has not been optimized vs Fritz8 and/or Shredder8. It is
just the best overall setting we have ever created.
Kurt



Kurt & Rolf Chess

[Sedat Canbaz]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Sedat Canbaz at 06 August 2004 01:17:31:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Antalya 2004 (60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min)-crosstable after 27th round: geschrieben von:/posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 05 August 2004 06:58:35:

Hi Sedat
Great tournament: surprising Rebel 12 and disappointing
CM9_T05. I hope you have not created a separate UCI-engine
for this setting and included the parameters under [EXTRAS]
which brings wrong results. People should use Manfred Meiler's
pre-set-up method with text files http://www.computerschach.de/freeware/theking.zip.
Or is CM9_T05 just suffering from a dizzy spell?
Kind regards
Kurt

Hello Kurt,
Here is my configuration Wb2Uci.eng file of CM9 T05:
[ENGINE]
Name=CM9 T05
Author=Johan de Koning
Filename=Wb2Uci.exe
[OPTIONS]
Program=TheKing.exe
InitString=cm_parm default\cm_parm opk=504536 tts=268435456 opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101 cc=105 mob=110 ks=155 pp=100 pw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=12 md=99
HashOnCommandline=false
InitTime=2
Ponder=false
Logfile=false
Edit=setboard
UseSAN=false
Priority=normal
AddHintMove=false
ShowThinkingMove=false
Protocol=1

I use almost 3 years this pre-set-up method for all CM9 settings,please check some results of other CM9000 Personalities at my web site:
SedatChess
Kind Regards,
Sedat Canbaz

[Kurt Utzinger]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 07 August 2004 06:24:12:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Antalya 2004 (60 moves in 2 hours rest 30 min)-crosstable after 27th round: geschrieben von:/posted by: Sedat Canbaz at 06 August 2004 01:17:31:

Hi Sedat
Great tournament: surprising Rebel 12 and disappointing
CM9_T05. I hope you have not created a separate UCI-engine
for this setting and included the parameters under [EXTRAS]
which brings wrong results. People should use Manfred Meiler's
pre-set-up method with text files http://www.computerschach.de/freeware/theking.zip.
Or is CM9_T05 just suffering from a dizzy spell?
Kind regards
Kurt

Hello Kurt,
Here is my configuration Wb2Uci.eng file of CM9 T05:
[ENGINE]
Name=CM9 T05
Author=Johan de Koning
Filename=Wb2Uci.exe
[OPTIONS]
Program=TheKing.exe
InitString=cm_parm default\cm_parm opk=504536 tts=268435456 opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101 cc=105 mob=110 ks=155 pp=100 pw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=12 md=99
HashOnCommandline=false
InitTime=2
Ponder=false
Logfile=false
Edit=setboard
UseSAN=false
Priority=normal
AddHintMove=false
ShowThinkingMove=false
Protocol=1
I use almost 3 years this pre-set-up method for all CM9 settings,please check some results of other CM9000 Personalities at my web site:
SedatChess
Kind Regards,
Sedat Canbaz

Hi Sedat
The only difference I can see is
InitString=cm_parm default\cm_parm opk= (your solution)
whereas it should be in my opinion
InitString=cm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=
Kind regards
Kurt



Kurt & Rolf Chess