AEGT : King Class updated

[Johan Havegheer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Johan Havegheer at 19 August 2004 20:04:22:

Hello,
Standings in King Class after round 15 :

King Class
PositieEngineLandPuntenAnThRuLiDeQuYaCrTaGoArSmS-B01AnMon532_WB 11.5/15· ·0=11011==111111 79.25 02Thinker 4.6c 9.5/151=· ·===1===01=11= 70.75 03Ruffian_105 8.5/150=· ·011=1=1101=0= 58.75 04List 512 8.5/150=1· ·10=1=0100111 56.50 05Delfi 4.5 8.0/151=000· ·1=011101== 57.00 06Quark 2.35 7.5/150=0=1=0=· ·01=1011 53.25 07Yace 7.0/150==0=011· ·=010110 51.25 08Crafty-1915-PS 7.0/15=0=10=00==· ·=1==1 50.50 09Tao57-4 6.5/15000010010=· ·11011 40.50 10Gothmog 1.0 B105.5/150=10010111000· ·00 44.25 11Aristarch 4.50 5.5/1500=1100000=101· ·= 39.25 12SmarThink 0.17a5.0/1500==00==01=001=· · 35.75 
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Begin van het toernooi: 2004.08.11, 07:57:16
Laatste update: 2004.08.19, 19:26:15
Plaats/ Land: Diksmuide, Belgium
Niveau: Toernooi 40/25
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+ @2.15Ghz
Besturingssysteem: Microsoft Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Tabel gemaakt met: Arena 1.09p3

Games will be sent to Olivier tonight.
Anmon 5.32 still leading !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Anmon GO
Best
Johan

[Graham Banks]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Graham Banks at 19 August 2004 21:25:46:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: AEGT : King Class updated geschrieben von:/posted by: Johan Havegheer at 19 August 2004 20:04:22:

Hi Johan,
thanks for running this tournament.
This is a very odd result for Aristarch 4.50 which is probably the strongest program in the field. Could just be a rogue series of results, but I'll be watching its progress with interest.
This new Anmon seems to have made a good gain in strength. Is this the impression that others get also?
Regards, Graham.

[Johan Havegheer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Johan Havegheer at 19 August 2004 21:48:26:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: AEGT : King Class updated geschrieben von:/posted by: Graham Banks at 19 August 2004 21:25:46:

Hi Johan,
thanks for running this tournament.
This is a very odd result for Aristarch 4.50 which is probably the strongest program in the field. Could just be a rogue series of results, but I'll be watching its progress with interest.
This new Anmon seems to have made a good gain in strength. Is this the impression that others get also?
Regards, Graham.

This is computer-chess. I could replay the tournament with one or two other programs and the result would be just the opposite, Anmon last and Aristarch in front. After 15 years of computer chess, i have learned to relativate such results.
The AEGT is so intresting, just because there are more people that playing
matches with the same opponents.
Best
Johan

[Heinz van Kempen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 19 August 2004 22:02:50:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: AEGT : King Class updated geschrieben von:/posted by: Johan Havegheer at 19 August 2004 21:48:26:

Hi Johan,
thanks for running this tournament.
This is a very odd result for Aristarch 4.50 which is probably the strongest program in the field. Could just be a rogue series of results, but I'll be watching its progress with interest.
This new Anmon seems to have made a good gain in strength. Is this the impression that others get also?
Regards, Graham.

This is computer-chess. I could replay the tournament with one or two other programs and the result would be just the opposite, Anmon last and Aristarch in front. After 15 years of computer chess, i have learned to relativate such results.
The AEGT is so intresting, just because there are more people that playing
matches with the same opponents.
Best
Johan

Hello Johan ,
yes, exactly this happens. 22 games for each engine in tournaments with opponents fairly close and you will get all kind of results. But combining 100, 200 or more games the whole thing will be more meaningful and the best will finally show up. There is a theory that maybe less games with long timecontrols than for Blitz are needed to have more or less exact ratings.
(For Blitz you need 1000 games with each engine to tell something with an accuracy of +- 20 ELO.)
Look at Olivier´s tournament for example and you see Aristarch in front with a huge margin and this one is really a monster with more time, although in one or two single tournaments it can anyway finish at the bottom.
This morning we got the final result from Pedro, but I still do not have the games to combine them to the overall crosstable. And guess what? AnMon last in Pedro´s tournament with only 5.5 points out of 22 games. I hope he will soon post the results and send me the games. For Igor we will have to wait two weeks more.
Note to Graham: As you probably noticed AnMon is already out with a newer version and first results are promising.
Best Regards
Heinz

[Graham Banks]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Graham Banks at 19 August 2004 22:25:48:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: AEGT : King Class updated geschrieben von:/posted by: Johan Havegheer at 19 August 2004 21:48:26:

Hi Johan,
thanks for running this tournament.
This is a very odd result for Aristarch 4.50 which is probably the strongest program in the field. Could just be a rogue series of results, but I'll be watching its progress with interest.
This new Anmon seems to have made a good gain in strength. Is this the impression that others get also?
Regards, Graham.

This is computer-chess. I could replay the tournament with one or two other programs and the result would be just the opposite, Anmon last and Aristarch in front. After 15 years of computer chess, i have learned to relativate such results.
The AEGT is so intresting, just because there are more people that playing
matches with the same opponents.
Best
Johan

I agree with your comments Johan.
Graham.

[Olivier Deville]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Olivier Deville at 20 August 2004 08:06:17:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: AEGT : King Class updated geschrieben von:/posted by: Johan Havegheer at 19 August 2004 20:04:22:




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