WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 17:06:36:

1st Division:
Round 17: (last round!)
Pepito 1.59 ½110 2.5/4
PostModernist 1010a ½001 1.5/4
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Zarkov 4.67 1½11 3.5/4
SlowChess 2.93a 0½00 0.5/4
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El Chinito 3.4 1½½½ 2.5/4
WildCat 4.0 0½½½ 1.5/4
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Dragon 4.5CF 111 3.0/3 = 1 game to go!
Comet B.68 000 0.0/3
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2nd Division:
Round 1:
Tourney is running, first results in 2 days.
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4th Division:
Round 5:
Ant 6.06 0111 3.0/4
OliThink 4.1.1 1000 1.0/4
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NagaSkaki 3.07 1½½1 3.0/4
Gaviota 0.33 0½½0 1.0/4
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Dorky 3.48 10½1 2.5/4
GreKo 2.812 01½0 1.5/4
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ZZZZZZ 6.427 - Waster 0.14 0-1 = 3 games to go!
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6th Division Group E:
Round 6:
Hoplite 2.1.1 - Surprise 4.1.5 1-0 49
Yawce 0.16 - Needle 0.53.1 0-1 49
Needle 0.53.1 - Yawce 0.16 1-0 54
Praetorian 2.1 - Fafis 1.5 0-1 14
Fafis 1.5 - Praetorian 2.1 1-0 32
Round 7:
Beaches 1.52 - KKFChess 2.6.6 0-1 31
KKFChess 2.6.6 - Beaches 1.52 1-0 56
BremboCE 0.31 - ApiChess 1.37 1-0 28
ApiChess 1.37 - BremboCE 0.31 =-= 96
WJChess 1.63 - Ranita 2.4 1-0 76
Ranita 2.4 - WJChess 1.63 =-= 102
Hoplite 2.1.1 - Hokus Pokus 0.43 0-1 84
Hokus Pokus 0.43 - Hoplite 2.1.1 =-= 44
Needle 0.53.1 - Surprise 4.1.5 0-1 18
Surprise 4.1.5 - Needle 0.53.1 =-= 47
Fafis 1.5 - Yawce 0.16 1-0 46
Yawce 0.16 - Fafis 1.5 0-1 36
Round 8:
KKFChess 2.6.6 - Hoplite 2.1.1 =-= 112
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Crosstables and pgn on the WBEC homepage.
Enginelist, latest updates/new engines:
23/08/2004:
Updated: Arasan v8.0
Best wishes,
Leo.


WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 23 August 2004 17:15:40:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 17:06:36:

1st Division:
Round 17: (last round!)
Pepito 1.59 ½110 2.5/4
PostModernist 1010a ½001 1.5/4
---------------------------------
Zarkov 4.67 1½11 3.5/4
SlowChess 2.93a 0½00 0.5/4
---------------------------------
El Chinito 3.4 1½½½ 2.5/4
WildCat 4.0 0½½½ 1.5/4
---------------------------------
Dragon 4.5CF 111 3.0/3 = 1 game to go!
Comet B.68 000 0.0/3
---------------------------------

It seems clear that mastro is the champion because there is a convincing evidence that elchinito cheated and after deleting elchinito results we can see that meastro is number 1(1/2 point more than Delfi or Pepito).
Uri

[Roger Brown]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Roger Brown at 23 August 2004 18:11:23:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re:Congratulations to David Omid for the first place. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 23 August 2004 17:15:40:

It seems clear that mastro is the champion because there is a convincing evidence that elchinito cheated and after deleting elchinito results we can see that meastro is number 1(1/2 point more than Delfi or Pepito).
Uri

Hello Uri,
Maybe you are correct but what you have done is extremely poor manners in my judgement.
It is Leo's tournament. He runs his machines, he spends his time and resources to do this for us all. For free I might add.
Your announcement is ill-timed and presumes much.
Allow Leo the space and time to deal with the problem in his own way...as other TD's have done.
Later.

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Norm Pollock at 23 August 2004 19:22:02:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re:Congratulations to David Omid for the first place. geschrieben von:/posted by: Roger Brown at 23 August 2004 18:11:23:

It seems clear that mastro is the champion because there is a convincing evidence that elchinito cheated and after deleting elchinito results we can see that meastro is number 1(1/2 point more than Delfi or Pepito).
Uri

Hello Uri,
Maybe you are correct but what you have done is extremely poor manners in my judgement.
It is Leo's tournament. He runs his machines, he spends his time and resources to do this for us all. For free I might add.
Your announcement is ill-timed and presumes much.
Allow Leo the space and time to deal with the problem in his own way...as other TD's have done.
Later.

It seems clear that Maestro WILL eventually be declared the WBEC Div I champion, unless el chinito can quickly and convincingly defend himself from the accusations of cheating. That decision will be Leo's and no one else's.
As fans we can speculate what is likely to happen. But giving congratulations to Maestro is premature at this time.

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 23 August 2004 19:56:06:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 17:06:36:

Hi Leo,
As I can see from your page, Maestro is neither commercial nor private. Then what is it? Will it be released sooner or later?
Of course I'm asking this because I would like to have it!
Best regards,
Gábor

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 20:44:08:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 23 August 2004 19:56:06:

Hi Leo,
As I can see from your page, Maestro is neither commercial nor private. Then what is it? Will it be released sooner or later?
Of course I'm asking this because I would like to have it!
Best regards,
Gábor

Hi Gábor,
Maestro is private, it have one * at the participants page.
I dont know if it will be released in the future.
Best wishes,
Leo.



WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 20:49:05:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re:Congratulations to David Omid for the first place. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 23 August 2004 17:15:40:

1st Division:
Round 17: (last round!)
Pepito 1.59 ½110 2.5/4
PostModernist 1010a ½001 1.5/4
---------------------------------
Zarkov 4.67 1½11 3.5/4
SlowChess 2.93a 0½00 0.5/4
---------------------------------
El Chinito 3.4 1½½½ 2.5/4
WildCat 4.0 0½½½ 1.5/4
---------------------------------
Dragon 4.5CF 111 3.0/3 = 1 game to go!
Comet B.68 000 0.0/3
---------------------------------

It seems clear that mastro is the champion because there is a convincing evidence that elchinito cheated and after deleting elchinito results we can see that meastro is number 1(1/2 point more than Delfi or Pepito).
Uri

Hi Uri,
I think anyone have the right to defence himself, and because Eugenio told me that he "will make very soon the public answer" I will wait until then before I make a decision.
Best wishes,
Leo.


WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 23 August 2004 21:08:53:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 20:44:08:

Hi Leo,
As I can see from your page, Maestro is neither commercial nor private. Then what is it? Will it be released sooner or later?
Of course I'm asking this because I would like to have it!
Best regards,
Gábor

Hi Gábor,
Maestro is private, it have one * at the participants page.
I dont know if it will be released in the future.
Best wishes,
Leo.

Thanks, Leo. I only studied the 1st division page where Maestro does not have a *.
Gábor

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 23 August 2004 21:28:23:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 23 August 2004 21:08:53:

Hi Leo,
As I can see from your page, Maestro is neither commercial nor private. Then what is it? Will it be released sooner or later?
Of course I'm asking this because I would like to have it!
Best regards,
Gábor

Hi Gábor,
Maestro is private, it have one * at the participants page.
I dont know if it will be released in the future.
Best wishes,
Leo.

Thanks, Leo. I only studied the 1st division page where Maestro does not have a *.
Gábor

You are right Gábor, seems I forgot it there, thanks!
Best wishes,
Leo.


WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 24 August 2004 11:56:24:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re:Congratulations to David Omid for the first place. geschrieben von:/posted by: Roger Brown at 23 August 2004 18:11:23:

It seems clear that mastro is the champion because there is a convincing evidence that elchinito cheated and after deleting elchinito results we can see that meastro is number 1(1/2 point more than Delfi or Pepito).
Uri

Hello Uri,
Maybe you are correct but what you have done is extremely poor manners in my judgement.
It is Leo's tournament. He runs his machines, he spends his time and resources to do this for us all. For free I might add.

I do not think that I did something wrong.
I did not attack Leo.
For me Meastro is the moral winner unless it is discovered that Maestro is also a clone or it turned out that all the people who gave information lied to me(I did not try to get details about the source code of Elchinito from the exe file and step by step instuction how to do it can be productive).
In other words Meastro is the winner unless something very surprising is going to happen.
These words are not against Leo.
I did not expect positive messgae that congratulate the winner to cause a negative response.
Uri

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Norm Pollock at 24 August 2004 20:56:29:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re:Congratulations to David Omid for the first place. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 24 August 2004 11:56:24:

It seems clear that mastro is the champion because there is a convincing evidence that elchinito cheated and after deleting elchinito results we can see that meastro is number 1(1/2 point more than Delfi or Pepito).
Uri

Hello Uri,
Maybe you are correct but what you have done is extremely poor manners in my judgement.
It is Leo's tournament. He runs his machines, he spends his time and resources to do this for us all. For free I might add.

I do not think that I did something wrong.
I did not attack Leo.
For me Meastro is the moral winner unless it is discovered that Maestro is also a clone or it turned out that all the people who gave information lied to me(I did not try to get details about the source code of Elchinito from the exe file and step by step instuction how to do it can be productive).
In other words Meastro is the winner unless something very surprising is going to happen.
These words are not against Leo.
I did not expect positive messgae that congratulate the winner to cause a negative response.
Uri

Uri,
By the way, Movei makes the promotion zone if elchinito is disqualified. Qualified "congratulations" are in order.
-Norm