Micro Tournament

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 10 Januar 2000 17:26:31:
I'm taking the top 4 programs from my previous tournamet, Comet, Crafty, TCB, and Phalanx, then adding Inmichess as a spoiler program that wasn't in the preveous tournament, and running a playoff tournament with longer time controls than the last one, 60movs/20minutes this time.
Changes to the programs are that Comet is the latest version, and Crafty now uses the opening book (book.bin) that can be downloaded at the Crafty ftp.
No tablebases are being used this time. The games have not been uploaded to my server for viewing yet.
Inmi will play 2 games against Comet today and that will set up the playing order. Each program will play each other program a total of 6 games. I expect to run a final playoff tournament using the top 2 programs from this tournament and another yet unused spoiler program.
The spoiler programs are not added with any intent that they win the tournaments, they're an added comparison measure of the contenders (I expect Inmi to win an draw several games, but from who(?)
Pete

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 CometB12 +2 =0 -4 *0 2.0 6 33.3%
2 Crafty +2 =0 -0 *0 2.0 2 100.0%
3 TCB +2 =0 -0 *0 2.0 2 100.0%
4 Phalanx +0 =0 -2 *0 0.0 2 0.0%
Total Games: 6
White Wins: 3 (50.0%)
Black Wins: 3 (50.0%)
Draws: 0 (0.0%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)


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[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 11 Januar 2000 04:33:32:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Micro Tournament geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 10 Januar 2000 17:26:31:
I'm starting to upload the games to my server as a text file. The matches are being run 2 games at a time so as to not tie up the use of my computer for long periods of time. It's too early to start taking the results very seriouslly yet but here they are at the moment:

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +4 =2 -0 *0 5.0 6 83.3%
2 CometB12 +3 =2 -7 *0 4.0 12 33.3%
3 TCB +2 =0 -0 *0 2.0 2 100.0%
4 Inmi301 +1 =0 -1 *0 1.0 2 50.0%
5 Phalanx +0 =0 -2 *0 0.0 2 0.0%
Total Games: 12
White Wins: 4 (33.3%)
Black Wins: 6 (50.0%)
Draws: 2 (16.7%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

Will Inmichess do better than I thought in this tournament? It's ahead of Phalanx for now. Comet plays TCB next.
Pete

These are the games for viewing in a text file

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Dann Corbit am 11 Januar 2000 06:47:50:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Micro Tournament geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 10 Januar 2000 17:26:31:
I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.


My FTP site

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 11 Januar 2000 15:50:27:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Micro Tournament geschrieben von:/posted by: Dann Corbit am 11 Januar 2000 06:47:50:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

view the games in a text file

I ran an earlier tournament at 60mvs/5min, that was _very_ unreasonable, I lowered the hashtable settings on one of the programs and it placed much higher when I ran those games over again.
Then my last tournament was at 60mvs/10min, more reasonable I guess, but probably still considered Blitz, but it is the time setting that I play programs at (& lose to them at).
So now this tournament is a playoff of the top 4 from _that_ tournament using a slower 60mvs/20min (not so blitz), with spoiler program Inmichess added. Then I expect to run one more playoff tournament with the top 2 from this tournament and a yet unused spoiler program, posibly at 60mvs/45min.
I need a second computer to run these on though, then the games could run for 60mvs/120min and I wouldn't have a problem with it. This is how it stands this morning:

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 CometB12 +3 =4 -9 *0 5.0 16 31.2%
2 Crafty +4 =2 -0 *0 5.0 6 83.3%
3 TCB +4 =2 -0 *0 5.0 6 83.3%
4 Inmi301 +1 =0 -1 *0 1.0 2 50.0%
5 Phalanx +0 =0 -2 *0 0.0 2 0.0%
Total Games: 16
White Wins: 4 (25.0%)
Black Wins: 8 (50.0%)
Draws: 4 (25.0%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

[Inmann Werner]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Inmann Werner am 12 Januar 2000 23:24:00:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Just a note geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 11 Januar 2000 04:33:32:
Hello Pete
3 points against Comet (50%), my "spoiler" is lucky )
Werner
What means "spoiler"???

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 13 Januar 2000 02:02:58:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Just a note geschrieben von:/posted by: Inmann Werner am 12 Januar 2000 23:24:00:

Hello Pete
3 points against Comet (50%), my "spoiler" is lucky )
Werner
What means "spoiler"???

to view the games in text file

It's a program that I don't expect to win the tournament, but it's there to spoil the plans of the other programs and mess up their scores. My guess is that Inmichess will win and draw several games, and different programs will have different amounts of trouble playing against Inmichess, it's also a program that they didn't face in my last tournament.
Now, Comet has finished playing, Crafty has just played TCB and because of it, they've swapped places.
Next, Crafty plays 6 games against Inmichess. Will Inmichess score about the same against Crafty? I don't know.
I've been uploading the games & pgnres to the text file (link below) every two games, I've been running the matches 2 games long so that I can use my computer between matches.
Pete

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
2 TCB +7 =3 -2 *0 8.5 12 70.8%
3 Crafty +6 =3 -3 *0 7.5 12 62.5%
4 Inmi301 +2 =2 -2 *0 3.0 6 50.0%
5 Phalanx +0 =1 -5 *0 0.5 6 8.3%
Total Games: 30
White Wins: 10 (33.3%)
Black Wins: 12 (40.0%)
Draws: 8 (26.7%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

[pavel]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pavel am 13 Januar 2000 04:13:12:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Micro Tournament geschrieben von:/posted by: Dann Corbit am 11 Januar 2000 06:47:50:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

[Imran Hendley]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Imran Hendley am 13 Januar 2000 05:23:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: TCB geschrieben von:/posted by: pavel am 13 Januar 2000 04:13:12:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Pavel, I think there must be something wrong with the Chessvision Winboard adapter. LG2000v2.0 plays very well at Blitz under Winboard on my system, and never flags. The other top blitzers seem to be Crafty 17.0x, AnMon 5.03, Comet Bxx, TCB0045, and Phalanx XXI in no particular order.

[Alexandre Côme]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Alexandre Côme am 13 Januar 2000 07:13:03:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: TCB geschrieben von:/posted by: pavel am 13 Januar 2000 04:13:12:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Hello pavel,
500kb of hash is too little !!
LG2000 v2 is very strong in blitz game under Winboard and never lost on time!
You must use Winboard!
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme

[pavel]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pavel am 13 Januar 2000 08:26:48:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: TCB geschrieben von:/posted by: Imran Hendley am 13 Januar 2000 05:23:31:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Pavel, I think there must be something wrong with the Chessvision Winboard adapter. LG2000v2.0 plays very well at Blitz under Winboard on my system, and never flags. The other top blitzers seem to be Crafty 17.0x, AnMon 5.03, Comet Bxx, TCB0045, and Phalanx XXI in no particular order.

To see if there is a problem with the winboard adapyer of chessvission. I will try playing om winboard again. Before switching to chessvission i was a winboard user so it shouldnt be a problem. there is just one problem how do i make the programs play "reruns" instead of doing it manually every time after a game?
thanks
pavel
ps. i dont think there should be a problem with the chessvision winboard adapter but still, its worth to give it a shot, and about goliath being out of time in blitz games i think i ma right on that. because, i have seen it play in winboard againts other programs and it did flag out or played very weak games in blitz.

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 13 Januar 2000 14:17:23:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: re tcb geschrieben von:/posted by: pavel am 13 Januar 2000 08:26:48:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Pavel, I think there must be something wrong with the Chessvision Winboard adapter. LG2000v2.0 plays very well at Blitz under Winboard on my system, and never flags. The other top blitzers seem to be Crafty 17.0x, AnMon 5.03, Comet Bxx, TCB0045, and Phalanx XXI in no particular order.

To see if there is a problem with the winboard adapyer of chessvission. I will try playing om winboard again. Before switching to chessvission i was a winboard user so it shouldnt be a problem. there is just one problem how do i make the programs play "reruns" instead of doing it manually every time after a game?
thanks
pavel
ps. i dont think there should be a problem with the chessvision winboard adapter but still, its worth to give it a shot, and about goliath being out of time in blitz games i think i ma right on that. because, i have seen it play in winboard againts other programs and it did flag out or played very weak games in blitz.

By "returns", do you mean _matches_? What I do is make a separate shortcut on my desktop for when I use Winboard in matches, it goes like this:
C:\WinBoard\winboard.exe /mg 4
so just add "/mg" and the number of games that you want in the match. And like I said, I make a separate icon so that it doesn't interfere with my useing Winboard the normal way.
Little Goliath, btw, is a monster, see the WT-6 tournament.
Pete

[pavel]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pavel am 14 Januar 2000 13:38:48:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: re tcb geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 13 Januar 2000 14:17:23:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Pavel, I think there must be something wrong with the Chessvision Winboard adapter. LG2000v2.0 plays very well at Blitz under Winboard on my system, and never flags. The other top blitzers seem to be Crafty 17.0x, AnMon 5.03, Comet Bxx, TCB0045, and Phalanx XXI in no particular order.

To see if there is a problem with the winboard adapyer of chessvission. I will try playing om winboard again. Before switching to chessvission i was a winboard user so it shouldnt be a problem. there is just one problem how do i make the programs play "reruns" instead of doing it manually every time after a game?
thanks
pavel
ps. i dont think there should be a problem with the chessvision winboard adapter but still, its worth to give it a shot, and about goliath being out of time in blitz games i think i ma right on that. because, i have seen it play in winboard againts other programs and it did flag out or played very weak games in blitz.

By "returns", do you mean _matches_? What I do is make a separate shortcut on my desktop for when I use Winboard in matches, it goes like this:
C:\WinBoard\winboard.exe /mg 4
so just add "/mg" and the number of games that you want in the match. And like I said, I make a separate icon so that it doesn't interfere with my useing Winboard the normal way.
Little Goliath, btw, is a monster, see the WT-6 tournament.
Pete

sorry for the arguments guys,
but i have tested in winboard with these same programs as i used in chessvision interface now the results are very differant. TCB now doesnt play as well as it did in chessvission interface.
I think winboard is the best way for winboard engines tourny.......other interfaces like fritz.....and chessvission......gives a wrong impression.
sorry again.
can anyone send me the ics of comet with 3 mb hash size figured?
I cannot open the ics file it prompts to look for the file.
help will be appreciated.
thanks
pavel

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 14 Januar 2000 19:46:51:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: re tcb geschrieben von:/posted by: pavel am 14 Januar 2000 13:38:48:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Pavel, I think there must be something wrong with the Chessvision Winboard adapter. LG2000v2.0 plays very well at Blitz under Winboard on my system, and never flags. The other top blitzers seem to be Crafty 17.0x, AnMon 5.03, Comet Bxx, TCB0045, and Phalanx XXI in no particular order.

To see if there is a problem with the winboard adapyer of chessvission. I will try playing om winboard again. Before switching to chessvission i was a winboard user so it shouldnt be a problem. there is just one problem how do i make the programs play "reruns" instead of doing it manually every time after a game?
thanks
pavel
ps. i dont think there should be a problem with the chessvision winboard adapter but still, its worth to give it a shot, and about goliath being out of time in blitz games i think i ma right on that. because, i have seen it play in winboard againts other programs and it did flag out or played very weak games in blitz.

By "returns", do you mean _matches_? What I do is make a separate shortcut on my desktop for when I use Winboard in matches, it goes like this:
C:\WinBoard\winboard.exe /mg 4
so just add "/mg" and the number of games that you want in the match. And like I said, I make a separate icon so that it doesn't interfere with my useing Winboard the normal way.
Little Goliath, btw, is a monster, see the WT-6 tournament.
Pete

sorry for the arguments guys,
but i have tested in winboard with these same programs as i used in chessvision interface now the results are very differant. TCB now doesnt play as well as it did in chessvission interface.
I think winboard is the best way for winboard engines tourny.......other interfaces like fritz.....and chessvission......gives a wrong impression.
sorry again.
can anyone send me the ics of comet with 3 mb hash size figured?
I cannot open the ics file it prompts to look for the file.
help will be appreciated.
thanks
pavel

Open it with Wordpad or Notepad or any other editor that you like. Select "open" in the "File" pulldown menu, and in the "open" dialog box, at the bottom in the part that says something to the effect of "open file type" (it may say something different) select "all files" or whatever it says that's similar to that.
Pete

[pavel]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pavel am 15 Januar 2000 16:33:43:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: re tcb geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 14 Januar 2000 19:46:51:

I very much enjoy longer time control tournaments. I will never be satisfied with anything other than a postal (read 'snail') pace, but I like these kind of games much more than blitz.
Dann "Blitz Hater" Corbit.

as i have always been saying that TCB is a better Blitz player then many other freeware programs and can be compared to Crafty, atleast in blitz games. In my many (100s alreday) round leage tournament in my chessvission interfeace i made 10 winboard programs (including several craftys) to play tourny. and still after these 100s 5min tourny TCB holds the first place. The tourny condition is simple. Same book for every program (chessvission book) no endgame and extra features for programs, also 500kb hash size. I still cant make anyone belive that i am not fouling about the tourny and about TCB being in the highest position. Is there something wrong with my tourny that i dont know? helps will be appreciated. By the way guess who is in the last place of my tourny(s)? Its LG2000v2......its very bad at blitz, flags out most of the time (
thanks
pavel

Pavel, I think there must be something wrong with the Chessvision Winboard adapter. LG2000v2.0 plays very well at Blitz under Winboard on my system, and never flags. The other top blitzers seem to be Crafty 17.0x, AnMon 5.03, Comet Bxx, TCB0045, and Phalanx XXI in no particular order.

To see if there is a problem with the winboard adapyer of chessvission. I will try playing om winboard again. Before switching to chessvission i was a winboard user so it shouldnt be a problem. there is just one problem how do i make the programs play "reruns" instead of doing it manually every time after a game?
thanks
pavel
ps. i dont think there should be a problem with the chessvision winboard adapter but still, its worth to give it a shot, and about goliath being out of time in blitz games i think i ma right on that. because, i have seen it play in winboard againts other programs and it did flag out or played very weak games in blitz.

By "returns", do you mean _matches_? What I do is make a separate shortcut on my desktop for when I use Winboard in matches, it goes like this:
C:\WinBoard\winboard.exe /mg 4
so just add "/mg" and the number of games that you want in the match. And like I said, I make a separate icon so that it doesn't interfere with my useing Winboard the normal way.
Little Goliath, btw, is a monster, see the WT-6 tournament.
Pete

sorry for the arguments guys,
but i have tested in winboard with these same programs as i used in chessvision interface now the results are very differant. TCB now doesnt play as well as it did in chessvission interface.
I think winboard is the best way for winboard engines tourny.......other interfaces like fritz.....and chessvission......gives a wrong impression.
sorry again.
can anyone send me the ics of comet with 3 mb hash size figured?
I cannot open the ics file it prompts to look for the file.
help will be appreciated.
thanks
pavel

Open it with Wordpad or Notepad or any other editor that you like. Select "open" in the "File" pulldown menu, and in the "open" dialog box, at the bottom in the part that says something to the effect of "open file type" (it may say something different) select "all files" or whatever it says that's similar to that.
Pete

pete as always thanks alot
pavel

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 15 Januar 2000 20:51:18:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Just a note geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 13 Januar 2000 02:02:58:
A bit of an update here, only the 6 games between Inmi and Phalanx remain. It's anyone's guess at this point how it will turn out for 4th & 5th place. 1st, 2nd & 3rd place will probably stay the same (?).
Again in this tournament I've stopped by the computer a couple of times and seen TCB do some amazing tactics that are far better than anything I could have come up with.
I doubt that Inmi will give up 4th place.


Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Inmi301 +4 =4 -10 *0 6.0 18 33.3%
5 Phalanx +3 =3 -12 *0 4.5 18 25.0%
Total Games: 54
White Wins: 17 (31.5%)
Black Wins: 25 (46.3%)
Draws: 12 (22.2%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

to view the pgn text file

[Inmann Werner]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Inmann Werner am 15 Januar 2000 22:02:58:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Update geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 15 Januar 2000 20:51:18:

A bit of an update here, only the 6 games between Inmi and Phalanx remain. It's anyone's guess at this point how it will turn out for 4th & 5th place. 1st, 2nd & 3rd place will probably stay the same (?).
Again in this tournament I've stopped by the computer a couple of times and seen TCB do some amazing tactics that are far better than anything I could have come up with.
I doubt that Inmi will give up 4th place.


Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Inmi301 +4 =4 -10 *0 6.0 18 33.3%
5 Phalanx +3 =3 -12 *0 4.5 18 25.0%
Total Games: 54
White Wins: 17 (31.5%)
Black Wins: 25 (46.3%)
Draws: 12 (22.2%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

I am looking at your site every half hour, if my prog makes the surprise of 4th place against this very strong amateur Engines....
))
Werner

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 16 Januar 2000 03:09:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Update geschrieben von:/posted by: Inmann Werner am 15 Januar 2000 22:02:58:

A bit of an update here, only the 6 games between Inmi and Phalanx remain. It's anyone's guess at this point how it will turn out for 4th & 5th place. 1st, 2nd & 3rd place will probably stay the same (?).
Again in this tournament I've stopped by the computer a couple of times and seen TCB do some amazing tactics that are far better than anything I could have come up with.
I doubt that Inmi will give up 4th place.


Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Inmi301 +4 =4 -10 *0 6.0 18 33.3%
5 Phalanx +3 =3 -12 *0 4.5 18 25.0%
Total Games: 54
White Wins: 17 (31.5%)
Black Wins: 25 (46.3%)
Draws: 12 (22.2%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

view games pgn file

I am looking at your site every half hour, if my prog makes the surprise of 4th place against this very strong amateur Engines....
))
Werner

It just got kicked out of 4th, but it does have 4 more games to go, Inmichess scored better against those strong engines than Phalanx did (phalanx has had a rough tournament), so who knows, Inmiches has been impressive. I'm going to look in over at CCC, then look at usenet, and thenstart things back up. Things should be finished before sunday morning (Chicago time)
Pete

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Phalanx +5 =3 -12 *0 6.5 20 32.5%
5 Inmi301 +4 =4 -12 *0 6.0 20 30.0%
Total Games: 56
White Wins: 18 (32.1%)
Black Wins: 26 (46.4%)
Draws: 12 (21.4%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 16 Januar 2000 08:36:44:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Update geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 16 Januar 2000 03:09:31:
This tournament is over. I was wrong, I had expected Inmichess to keep 4th place, but Inmichess did do very well in the company of such strong programs, and I can't wait to see the next version!
See the game below where Inmichess stole Phalanx's Queen's Rook on move 10. Amazing, but Phalanx won, Inmi kind of stumbled a bit, oh well.
Pete

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Phalanx +8 =3 -13 *0 9.5 24 39.6%
5 Inmi301 +5 =4 -15 *0 7.0 24 29.2%
Total Games: 60
White Wins: 19 (31.7%)
Black Wins: 29 (48.3%)
Draws: 12 (20.0%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DEFAULT"]
[Date "2000.01.15"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Inmi301"]
[Black "Phalanx"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "60/1200"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bf5 6. Nh4 Bg4 7. Bb5+
Qxb5 8. Nxb5 Bxd1 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Nxa8 Bxc2 11. O-O Nd5 12. Bd2 Nc6 13.
Nf3 e6 14. Ne5 Nxe5 15. dxe5 Be7 16. Rfc1 Bg6 17. Rc3 Nxc3 18. Bxc3 Bh5 19.
g4 Bxg4 20. h3 Bf3 21. Kh2 Kd7 22. Rg1 g5 23. Bd2 h6 24. Nb6+ axb6 25. Rc1
Rc8 26. Rxc8 Kxc8 27. Kg3 Bd5 28. a3 Kd7 29. b4 b5 30. Kg4 f5+ 31. exf6
Bxf6 32. Kh5 Bg7 33. Kg6 Bb2 34. Kxh6 Bg2 35. Kxg5 Bxh3 36. f3 Bxa3 37. Bc3
Kd6 38. Kh4 Bf5 39. Kh5 Kd5 40. Be1 Kc4 41. Bf2 Bxb4 42. Bb6 Bc3 43. Kg5 b4
44. Be3 b3 45. Bc1 Bd2+ 46. Bxd2 b2 47. Kf6 b1=Q 48. Bg5 Qh1 49. Bf4 Qh4+
50. Bg5 Qh8+ 51. Kf7 Qh5+ 52. Kf8 Qxg5 53. Ke8 Qg7
{White resigns} 0-1

to view the game's pgn as a text file

[Inmann Werner]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Inmann Werner am 16 Januar 2000 14:16:56:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Final geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati am 16 Januar 2000 08:36:44:

This tournament is over. I was wrong, I had expected Inmichess to keep 4th place, but Inmichess did do very well in the company of such strong programs, and I can't wait to see the next version!
See the game below where Inmichess stole Phalanx's Queen's Rook on move 10. Amazing, but Phalanx won, Inmi kind of stumbled a bit, oh well.
Pete

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Phalanx +8 =3 -13 *0 9.5 24 39.6%
5 Inmi301 +5 =4 -15 *0 7.0 24 29.2%
Total Games: 60
White Wins: 19 (31.7%)
Black Wins: 29 (48.3%)
Draws: 12 (20.0%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

The games against Phalanx where not the best, but all in all, I am not unhappy.
I hoped for 33%, it got 29%, so it is in the range.
Version 3.02 is in the pipeline, but some small tuning is necessary. Hope again for some ELO increase. But all the other programmers also do not sleep.....
(New Version goes one ply deeper in endgame without any loss..)
Werner

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati am 16 Januar 2000 15:33:53:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Final geschrieben von:/posted by: Inmann Werner am 16 Januar 2000 14:16:56:

This tournament is over. I was wrong, I had expected Inmichess to keep 4th place, but Inmichess did do very well in the company of such strong programs, and I can't wait to see the next version!
See the game below where Inmichess stole Phalanx's Queen's Rook on move 10. Amazing, but Phalanx won, Inmi kind of stumbled a bit, oh well.
Pete

Results from file long.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Crafty +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
2 TCB +14 =5 -5 *0 16.5 24 68.8%
3 CometB12 +7 =7 -10 *0 10.5 24 43.8%
4 Phalanx +8 =3 -13 *0 9.5 24 39.6%
5 Inmi301 +5 =4 -15 *0 7.0 24 29.2%
Total Games: 60
White Wins: 19 (31.7%)
Black Wins: 29 (48.3%)
Draws: 12 (20.0%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)

The games against Phalanx where not the best, but all in all, I am not unhappy.
I hoped for 33%, it got 29%, so it is in the range.
Version 3.02 is in the pipeline, but some small tuning is necessary. Hope again for some ELO increase. But all the other programmers also do not sleep.....
(New Version goes one ply deeper in endgame without any loss..)
Werner

Inmichess did much better than Phalanx did against Crafty, TCB, & Comet, so I was very surprised that it had such a hard time against Phalanx.
These are all favorite programs of mine in this tournament (that was not the case with that last tournament) so even though I was cheering for Inmichess because it was doing better than I thought it would, I did realize that Phalanx is pretty strong and a real good program.
I'm not really sure if it's such a good idea to have a tournament that only has your favorite programs, you just don't know who to cheer for.
Pete