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Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2011, 18:58
by Ubaldo Andrea Farina
I know there is the option /serverMoves but with that Winboard will save the moves in a file that pgn4web can't read.
Arena can do that and I think also ChessGUI, I think it would be useful if also Winboard could do that.

BTW HG thanks for all the work on Winboard, after years of Scotti's Winboard_X I've switched to the new 4.5 and I like most of the new features, though I still have to implement the new "protocol 3" commands.

Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

PostPosted: 23 Jul 2011, 15:46
by matematiko
Seems that you want to broadcast live games, maybe you already know but why do not try Tom's Chess Server/Viewer (http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/tlcv.html)?

pgn4web does not require a client, but is very simplistic, does not show clocks, thinking output and more information.

Other than this recommendation I guess the best solution is for Mr. HGM to make WinBoard write/append the pgn file in the fly, and yet this might not be the solution. Does pgn4web support reading pgn files as a single game? As a database (multiple games)? Or both. Because WinBoard appends new games to the declared file and this file becomes a database.

Regards,

Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

PostPosted: 24 Jul 2011, 08:37
by Ubaldo Andrea Farina
matematiko wrote:Seems that you want to broadcast live games, maybe you already know but why do not try Tom's Chess Server/Viewer (http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/tlcv.html)?


Yes, I wanted to broadcast Chiron's games at ACCA tournament.
I didn't use Tom's Chess Server because it requires the observers to install the viewer software. A web page is a simpler solution.

pgn4web does not require a client, but is very simplistic, does not show clocks, thinking output and more information.


AFAIK pgn4web can show all of these informations if properly configured.

Other than this recommendation I guess the best solution is for Mr. HGM to make WinBoard write/append the pgn file in the fly, and yet this might not be the solution. Does pgn4web support reading pgn files as a single game? As a database (multiple games)? Or both. Because WinBoard appends new games to the declared file and this file becomes a database.


Yes, it can do both. You can select which game to show as default and then the user can then watch also the other ones.

Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

PostPosted: 24 Jul 2011, 14:09
by H.G.Muller
Well, this is not that simple, as it goes against the way WinBoard normally saves PGN files. It might be easier to fix pgn4web so that it can read the existing /serverMoves file format. Or use the ChessLive! viewer in stead, which already does.

I don't think it is a good design to transfer PGN for this purpose, as decoding it requires rule knowledge in the viewer.

Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

PostPosted: 24 Jul 2011, 14:36
by matematiko
Ubaldo Andrea Farina wrote:AFAIK pgn4web can show all of these information if properly configured.


I am sorry about my erroneous comment, I was judging by the sample snapshots at its website.

To Mr. HGM

What is the file where the moves are parsed to when /serverMoves is on? Is it the debug file?

Regards,

Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

PostPosted: 24 Jul 2011, 15:07
by H.G.Muller
No, you have to specify the file. Like /serverMoves=moves.txt if yoo want them on moves.txt.