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Spike9 bug?

PostPosted: 23 Apr 2005, 11:54
by Anonymous
[Event "test37, Blitz:20'"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.04.23"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Pseudo"]
[Black "Spike 0.9"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A48"]
[Annotator "-0.16;0.04"]
[PlyCount "103"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
[TimeControl "1200"]

{W=12.3 ply; 247kN/s B=12.1 ply; 343kN/s} 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} g6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Bf4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Bg7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]
} 5. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. h3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qb6 {Both last book move [%emt 0:00:00]}
8. Qc1 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd5 {[%eval 4,10] [%emt 0:00:24]} 9. dxc5 {
(Bg3) [%eval -16,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qxc5 {[%eval 5,12] [%emt 0:00:28]} 10. Bg3
{[%eval -10,12] [%emt 0:00:38]} Na6 {[%eval 2,11] [%emt 0:00:22]} 11. O-O {
(Nbd2) [%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:00:37]} Bd7 {[%eval 14,11] [%emt 0:00:25]} 12. Nbd2
{[%eval 2,11] [%emt 0:00:36]} Qc8 {(f5) [%eval 9,10] [%emt 0:00:21]} 13. e4 {
(Rd1) [%eval 14,12] [%emt 0:00:34]} Nb6 {[%eval 5,12] [%emt 0:00:22]} 14. e5 {
[%eval 17,12] [%emt 0:00:33]} d5 {(dxe5) [%eval 10,12] [%emt 0:00:23]} 15. Bxa6
{(Nb3) [%eval 25,12] [%emt 0:00:32]} bxa6 {[%eval -4,12] [%emt 0:00:23]} 16.
Nd4 {(Nb3) [%eval 27,12] [%emt 0:00:31]} Bxh3 {
(Qb7) [%eval -4,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} 17. gxh3 {[%eval 138,13] [%emt 0:00:30]}
Qxh3 {[%eval -4,12] [%emt 0:00:34]} 18. Qd1 {
(Re1) [%eval 131,12] [%emt 0:00:29]} e6 {(Bh6) [%eval -12,10] [%emt 0:00:23]}
19. Qf3 {[%eval 158,12] [%emt 0:00:28]} Rfc8 {
(Rab8) [%eval 4,12] [%emt 0:00:24]} 20. Bf4 {[%eval 174,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qh4
{[%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 21. Qg3 {(Kg2) [%eval 170,12] [%emt 0:00:26]}
Qe7 {[%eval 6,13] [%emt 0:00:33]} 22. Kg2 {(Rfe1) [%eval 174,12] [%emt 0:00:25]
} Na4 {(Rab8) [%eval 8,12] [%emt 0:00:22]} 23. Rab1 {
[%eval 172,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rab8 {[%eval 8,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} 24. N2b3 {
[%eval 170,12] [%emt 0:00:24]} Nb6 {[%eval 9,12] [%emt 0:00:23]} 25. Nc1 {
[%eval 172,12] [%emt 0:00:23]} Rb7 {(Nc4) [%eval 17,12] [%emt 0:00:30]} 26. Rh1
{[%eval 188,12] [%emt 0:00:22]} h5 {[%eval 21,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} 27. Nd3 {
[%eval 184,11] [%emt 0:00:21]} Qe8 {(Qc7) [%eval 28,12] [%emt 0:00:30]} 28.
Rbe1 {(Bg5) [%eval 182,11] [%emt 0:00:21]} Nd7 {
(a5) [%eval 38,12] [%emt 0:00:48]} 29. Re2 {(Bg5) [%eval 187,11] [%emt 0:00:20]
} a5 {(Nb8) [%eval 48,11] [%emt 0:00:45]} 30. Rd1 {
(Kf1) [%eval 171,11] [%emt 0:00:19]} a4 {[%eval 18,11] [%emt 0:00:17]} 31. Bd2
{(a3) [%eval 165,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} Nb6 {(Qf8) [%eval 6,12] [%emt 0:00:24]}
32. Kh2 {(Qh3) [%eval 167,11] [%emt 0:00:18]} Nc4 {
(a3) [%eval 13,11] [%emt 0:00:22]} 33. Bg5 {[%eval 176,11] [%emt 0:00:17]} a3 {
(Na5) [%eval 35,11] [%emt 0:00:29]} 34. b3 {[%eval 172,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} Nb6
{[%eval 106,12] [%emt 0:01:00]} 35. Nf4 {[%eval 177,11] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kh7 {
(Qf8) [%eval 127,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 36. Bf6 {[%eval 211,11] [%emt 0:00:16]}
Bxf6 {(Qh8) [%eval 182,11] [%emt 0:00:26]} 37. exf6 {
[%eval 219,11] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qg8 {[%eval 182,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 38. Rg1 {
[%eval 246,10] [%emt 0:00:15]} Nd7 {(Rbc7) [%eval 252,9] [%emt 0:00:11]} 39.
Ndxe6 {[%eval 254,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} fxe6 {[%eval 333,10] [%emt 0:00:15]} 40.
Qh4 {[%eval 310,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} Nxf6 {[%eval 339,10] [%emt 0:00:11]} 41.
Qxf6 {[%eval 347,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rf8 {[%eval 353,11] [%emt 0:00:10]} 42.
Qh4 {[%eval 372,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rxf4 {[%eval 377,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} 43.
Qxf4 {[%eval 383,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rf7 {[%eval 394,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} 44.
Qd4 {[%eval 387,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} Re7 {[%eval 409,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} 45. Qf6
{(c4) [%eval 425,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} Rf7 {[%eval 493,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} 46.
Qxe6 {[%eval 468,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} Rxf2+ {[%eval 505,11] [%emt 0:00:09]} 47.
Rg2 {[%eval 484,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} Rxe2 {(Rf7) [%eval 526,12] [%emt 0:00:09]}
48. Rxe2 {(Qxg8+) [%eval 513,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qf8 {
(Qxe6) [%eval 576,11] [%emt 0:00:10]} 49. Qe7+ {[%eval 540,11] [%emt 0:00:10]}
Qxe7 {(Kg8) [%eval 1165,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} 50. Rxe7+ {
[%eval 600,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kg8 {(Kh6) [%eval 1256,14] [%emt 0:00:11]} 51.
Rxa7 {(c4) [%eval 649,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kf8 {[%eval 806,13] [%emt 0:00:12]}
52. Kg3 {(Rxa3) [%eval 717,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} 1-0

[Event "test37, Blitz:20'"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.04.23"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Spike 0.9"]
[Black "Pseudo"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A45"]
[Annotator "0.45;0.06"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
[TimeControl "1200"]

{W=12.4 ply; 335kN/s B=13.5 ply; 292kN/s} 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} g6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Bg5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Bg7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]
} 5. Nd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Ngf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. O-O {
[%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {Both last book move [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. b4 {
[%eval 45,10] [%emt 0:00:24]} c4 {[%eval 6,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} 10. Bc2 {
[%eval 35,12] [%emt 0:00:22]} a5 {(Bb7) [%eval 5,13] [%emt 0:00:38]} 11. a3 {
(b5) [%eval 34,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} h6 {(Bb7) [%eval 3,13] [%emt 0:00:37]} 12.
Bh4 {[%eval 39,12] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bb7 {[%eval 5,12] [%emt 0:00:36]} 13. Qc1 {
(Qe2) [%eval 38,11] [%emt 0:00:41]} Nh5 {(axb4) [%eval -4,12] [%emt 0:00:34]}
14. Rb1 {(Qb2) [%eval 34,11] [%emt 0:00:47]} g5 {
(axb4) [%eval -15,13] [%emt 0:00:33]} 15. Nxg5 {
(Bg3) [%eval 57,13] [%emt 0:00:34]} hxg5 {[%eval -106,12] [%emt 0:00:32]} 16.
Bxg5 {[%eval 54,12] [%emt 0:00:34]} Nhf6 {[%eval -106,12] [%emt 0:00:32]} 17.
Ba4 {(Qb2) [%eval 49,11] [%emt 0:00:23]} axb4 {
(Re8) [%eval -105,12] [%emt 0:00:30]} 18. Rxb4 {[%eval 57,11] [%emt 0:00:33]}
Qc7 {(Re8) [%eval -107,12] [%emt 0:00:29]} 19. Nf3 {
(Re1) [%eval 45,10] [%emt 0:00:22]} Bc6 {[%eval -126,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} 20.
Bf4 {[%eval 10,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qb7 {[%eval -129,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} 21. Bc2
{[%eval -4,11] [%emt 0:00:19]} Ra5 {(Ra6) [%eval -136,12] [%emt 0:00:26]} 22.
Nh4 {(a4) [%eval 0,11] [%emt 0:00:22]} e6 {
(Rfa8) [%eval -140,12] [%emt 0:00:25]} 23. Bd6 {
(Rb1) [%eval -22,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} Rfa8 {[%eval -143,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} 24.
Rb1 {[%eval -52,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} R5a6 {(Ba4) [%eval -147,13] [%emt 0:00:24]}
25. Bb4 {(f3) [%eval -43,11] [%emt 0:00:21]} Qc7 {
(Bf8) [%eval -153,12] [%emt 0:00:23]} 26. f3 {[%eval -39,12] [%emt 0:00:29]}
Ba4 {(Bf8) [%eval -158,13] [%emt 0:00:22]} 27. Rf2 {
(Bxa4) [%eval -65,11] [%emt 0:00:19]} Nc5 {(Bf8) [%eval -171,12] [%emt 0:00:21]
} 28. dxc5 {[%eval -108,12] [%emt 0:00:33]} bxc5 {
[%eval -181,14] [%emt 0:00:21]} 29. Bxa4 {[%eval -114,11] [%emt 0:00:16]} Rxa4
{[%eval -188,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} 30. Rc2 {[%eval -128,12] [%emt 0:00:18]} cxb4
{(Nd7) [%eval -197,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} 31. axb4 {[%eval -204,14] [%emt 0:00:53]
} Qb6 {(Qe5) [%eval -221,13] [%emt 0:00:19]} 32. g3 {
(Qe1) [%eval -171,12] [%emt 0:00:31]} Nd7 {[%eval -231,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} 33.
Qd2 {(f4) [%eval -195,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} Ne5 {[%eval -240,12] [%emt 0:00:17]}
34. Kg2 {[%eval -236,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Nd3 {
(Ra1) [%eval -255,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} 35. f4 {
(Kh3) [%eval -292,13] [%emt 0:00:41]} Nc5 {(Qa7) [%eval -288,12] [%emt 0:00:16]
} 36. Qe2 {[%eval -312,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} Ne4 {[%eval -292,12] [%emt 0:00:16]}
37. Rbc1 {[%eval -415,11] [%emt 0:00:36]} Ra1 {[%eval -356,12] [%emt 0:00:15]}
38. Qe1 {(f5) [%eval -429,11] [%emt 0:00:20]} R8a2 {
[%eval -439,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} 39. Qd1 {(Qe2) [%eval -487,11] [%emt 0:00:19]}
Nxc3 {(Bxc3) [%eval -456,14] [%emt 0:00:14]} 40. Qd2 {
[%eval -560,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} Rxc2 {(Rxc1) [%eval -528,14] [%emt 0:00:14]}
41. Rxc2 {[%eval -618,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} Nd1 {[%eval -547,14] [%emt 0:00:13]}
42. Kh3 {[%eval -653,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} c3 {
(Nxe3) [%eval -552,14] [%emt 0:00:13]} 43. Qe1 {[%eval -627,14] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Qb5 {(Qxb4) [%eval -589,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} 44. f5 {
[%eval -783,11] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qd3 {[%eval -751,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} 45. Qe2 {
[%eval -815,13] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qxe2 {[%eval -778,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} 46. Rxe2
{[%eval -895,14] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nxe3 {[%eval -855,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} 0-1

Spike9 bug? (Diagrams)

PostPosted: 23 Apr 2005, 18:33
by Guenther Simon
Hello Jan,

I believe giving diagrams or mentioning the positions you mean,
helps a bit ;) My guess is you meant those positions below?

Spike: Nxg5?
[diag]r2q1rk1/1b1nppb1/1p5p/p2p2pn/1PpP3B/P1P1PN2/2BN1PPP/1RQ2RK1 w - - 0 15[/diag]
r2q1rk1/1b1nppb1/1p5p/p2p2pn/1PpP3B/P1P1PN2/2BN1PPP/1RQ2RK1 w - - 0 15

Spike: ...Bxh3?
[diag]r1q2rk1/p2bppbp/pn4p1/3pP3/3N4/2P3BP/PP1N1PP1/R1Q2RK1 b - - 0 16[/diag]
r1q2rk1/p2bppbp/pn4p1/3pP3/3N4/2P3BP/PP1N1PP1/R1Q2RK1 b - - 0 16

I could reproduce Nxg5? from example 1, but in example 2, Spike changes
here very quickly to Bh6 even on my slow second machine.(WB)
I read somewhere that Spike had a problem with CB Guis which is fixed
in newest version 0.9a?
BTW doesn't it save the depth too, when using that 'ugly' format?

Best regards,
Guenther

Re: Spike9 bug?

PostPosted: 23 Apr 2005, 20:02
by Anonymous
Yes, those are the positions, I'm sorry that I didn't point that out. About Bxh3:yes when analyzing it plays Bh6.....but try playing Bxh3....score ~0.00.

Re: Spike9 bug?

PostPosted: 24 Apr 2005, 17:03
by Volker Böhm
This is a known issue in Spike and not a bug. Spike is built to be an aggressive playing engine that preferes to attack kings. In some positions Spike does overrates the king attack.

Greeting Volker