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I've decided to create a clone list. You can find it at:
http://computer-chess.org/pmwiki.php?n= ... EngineList
Any additional information or any corrections will be appreciated. Thanks to all who respond.

Best regards,
Ron

Patriot by Vladimir Yelin?

BTW, when you don't know which engine was cloned, how can you tell it's a clone?

Gridchess by Kai Himstedt, Germany. It's a multiprocessor Fruit 2.1.

This is my source of information.

Gábor Szots wrote:Patriot by Vladimir Yelin?

BTW, when you don't know which engine was cloned, how can you tell it's a clone?

Thanks Gábor! Patriot has been added.

My information was gathered from web searches. Many of the engines were identified as clones, but I couldn't find which engine they were based on. For Patriot I remember that it was a Crafty clone.

Ron

Teemu Pudas wrote:Gridchess by Kai Himstedt, Germany. It's a multiprocessor Fruit 2.1.

This is my source of information.

Gridchess, eh? That's a tough one. I'm reluctant to accuse a university project of being a clone. I don't believe that they misrepresented themselves. They added parallelization code to Fruit and that was original work. If you look at the Paderborn 2006 results http://wwwcs.uni-paderborn.de/~IPCCC/IP ... _2006.html you can see that the engine was not disqualified.

I want to list engines that were misrepresented as original works but were merely hex-edited copies of genuine engines. If I listed all engines based on others the list would be almost endless.

Thanks for the information Teemu! I have added you to the contributors.

Ron

Ron Murawski wrote:I've decided to create a clone list. You can find it at:
http://computer-chess.org/pmwiki.php?n= ... EngineList
Any additional information or any corrections will be appreciated. Thanks to all who respond.

Best regards,
Ron

Hi Ron

Great work!

This list is very useful to new people. There are some clone engines used in tournaments and not available (obviously) and these people dont know where can download it, if it possible.

This list complete with your other list (private engines) and freeware list (Leo) almost engines Winboard/UCI that exists.

Thanks you very much

Best Regards

Pd. The idea is yours, I only suggest you that when I saw your private list

Hi Ron,

according to

http://mitglied.lycos.de/WinBoard/winboard_engines.htm

the "programmer" of WinCraft is Winfred Craft (England).

Bye,

Hartmut

Ron Murawski wrote:

Gábor Szots wrote:Patriot by Vladimir Yelin?

BTW, when you don't know which engine was cloned, how can you tell it's a clone?

Thanks Gábor! Patriot has been added.

My information was gathered from web searches. Many of the engines were identified as clones, but I couldn't find which engine they were based on. For Patriot I remember that it was a Crafty clone.

Ron

Hi Ron,

I can see Patriot appeared on your list. However, the cloner is from Belarus, not Russia. BTW, I have mixed feelings about including the cloners' nationality in the list - it may suggest that their country is also guilty.

Hi Ron,

For Patriot I remember that it was a Crafty clone.

I think the last version of Patriot (before it was uncovered) was 'Fruit' based (identical pv output if I recall).

Jim.

Gábor Szots wrote:

Ron Murawski wrote:

Gábor Szots wrote:Patriot by Vladimir Yelin?

BTW, when you don't know which engine was cloned, how can you tell it's a clone?

Thanks Gábor! Patriot has been added.

My information was gathered from web searches. Many of the engines were identified as clones, but I couldn't find which engine they were based on. For Patriot I remember that it was a Crafty clone.

Ron

Hi Ron,

I can see Patriot appeared on your list. However, the cloner is from Belarus, not Russia. BTW, I have mixed feelings about including the cloners' nationality in the list - it may suggest that their country is also guilty.

Hi Gábor,

I corrected the country name to Belarus.

I have seen too many clones in regional matchups. For example should ElChinito represent Spain or France? I don't think that's right.

Ron

Hartmut Woldeit wrote:Hi Ron,

according to

http://mitglied.lycos.de/WinBoard/winboard_engines.htm

the "programmer" of WinCraft is Winfred Craft (England).

Bye,

Hartmut

Thanks Hartmut! The information is added.

Ron

Jim Ablett wrote:Hi Ron,

For Patriot I remember that it was a Crafty clone.

I think the last version of Patriot (before it was uncovered) was 'Fruit' based (identical pv output if I recall).

Jim.

Okay, Jim. I'll trust your memory over my own ...or was Patriot first a Crafty clone and then a Fruit clone? For now I will list Fruit only.

Ron

Sergio Martinez wrote:The idea is yours, I only suggest you that when I saw your private list

Hi Sergio,

You thought of it, so the clone list is your idea! The private engine list was Tony Thomas's idea. I'm not the guy with the ideas, I'm the guy who does a little bit of research, asks for help, and then puts some information onto a website.

Ron

or was Patriot first a Crafty clone and then a Fruit clone?

That's right. Patriot originally was a Crafty clone, but later versions were Fruit.

Jim.

Tom Kerrigan's home page (http://home.comcast.net/~tckerrigan/) lists KasparovX and Capachess as TSCP clones.

Tony

Ron Murawski wrote:I've decided to create a clone list. You can find it at:
http://computer-chess.org/pmwiki.php?n= ... EngineList
Any additional information or any corrections will be appreciated. Thanks to all who respond.

Best regards,
Ron

Hi Ron

Christine is by Orlando Mouchel, France

It was a clone of Fruit.

Olivier

Olivier Deville wrote:

Ron Murawski wrote:I've decided to create a clone list. You can find it at:
http://computer-chess.org/pmwiki.php?n= ... EngineList
Any additional information or any corrections will be appreciated. Thanks to all who respond.

Best regards,
Ron

Hi Ron

Christine is by Orlando Mouchel, France

It was a clone of Fruit.

Olivier

Thanks Olivier!

I have a question. Was Maronti a clone engine? If so, what was the engine it was based on?

Ron

Tony Mokonen wrote:Tom Kerrigan's home page (http://home.comcast.net/~tckerrigan/) lists KasparovX and Capachess as TSCP clones.

Tony

Thanks, Tony!

Ron

Don't forget that strong Kaissa (Crafty clone) that played in WBEC.
Is Fafis in the list ? and Hydra 0.8 (Fruit 2.1 clone) ?

Matthias Gemuh wrote:Don't forget that strong Kaissa (Crafty clone) that played in WBEC.
Is Fafis in the list ? and Hydra 0.8 (Fruit 2.1 clone) ?

Thanks, Matthias! The information has been added.

Ron