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I found this website today:

http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyellow/

It seems to has to do something with computer chess, also something as an engine seems to be available there (cchessengine.512j.com). However I can't read any Chinese and also my browser displays almost all question marks...

Volker

I can speak some japanese, but have no idea about reading it. I guess chinese is pretty much the same: not that hard to speak but terribly hard to read/write.
Sorry, I can't help.

Babelfish.av.com was hardly any help, but I did spot: "ECCO: enceclopedia of chinese chess openings" somewhere.

Now, it could be that the chinese have some specialized chess openings we know nothing of, but I think it's more likely that ECCO is the ECO for chinese chess, a game like chess, but not chess:-)

According to this website: http://home1.gte.net/res1bup4/chess_intro.htm, chinese chess is parhaps the most popular boardgame in the world... So... What are we wasting our time on anyway?-)

Also it states that openings are somewhat classified, so ECCO would make sense. Sorry to disappoint, but no chinese _western_-chess program yet.

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It's really very interesting though: according to this subpage:
http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyellow/computer/cchess_bitboard.htm, this chinese-chess program uses bitboards, even though chinese chess uses a 9x9 (=81 squares) board. I wonder if the author considers this the most efficient representation. If I'm not mistaken this is even for us with a 64sq board an open discussion. But that discussion would belong in the programming forum:-)
--/edited--

Kind Regards, Laurens.

Volker Pittlik wrote:I found this website today:

http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyellow/

It seems to has to do something with computer chess, also something as an engine seems to be available there (cchessengine.512j.com). However I can't read any Chinese and also my browser displays almost all question marks...

Volker

Hi Volker,
there is an email address on the site, have you tried sending an email in English?

Volker Pittlik wrote:I found this website today:

http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyellow/

Wow Volker. What a find! You'll no doubt be adding that link at the top of the page along with the FAQ, RWBC, WBEC etc.

Dan H.

Hi all

The site is definitely about chinese chess (xiang-qi). I cannt read chinese, but I know the ideograms of the chess men, and I could recognize them on this page.

Olivier

Olivier Deville wrote:The site is definitely about chinese chess (xiang-qi). I cannt read chinese, but I know the ideograms of the chess men, and I could recognize them on this page.

Olivier:
Being fluent in whatever it is, 6 or 8 languages, I find it almost inexcusable that you can't give a better translation of this page full of question marks that Volker has found.

Dan H.

Dan Honeycutt wrote:

Olivier Deville wrote:The site is definitely about chinese chess (xiang-qi). I cannt read chinese, but I know the ideograms of the chess men, and I could recognize them on this page.

Olivier:
Being fluent in whatever it is, 6 or 8 languages, I find it almost inexcusable that you can't give a better translation of this page full of question marks that Volker has found.

Dan H.

Olivier

Volker Pittlik wrote:I found this website today:

http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyellow/

It seems to has to do something with computer chess, also something as an engine seems to be available there (cchessengine.512j.com). However I can't read any Chinese and also my browser displays almost all question marks...

Volker

Actually I'm chinese by race, and I read chinese. Sadly, my current computer also displays ??? probably because I didn't install the various chinese language packs needed to decode them.

I'll install them now and see what happens

Update: Okay I can read it now. A quick reading indicates that yes it's mostly about chinese chess except the following

1) http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyello ... istory.htm

History of computer chess (internetional chess) - Looks like a translation of some chessbase article

2)http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyellow/other/culture.htm

This one compares the origins of international chess and chinese chess and its effects on their respective societies and culture I think.

3) http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~auntyello ... mpare1.htm

Yet another comparision .

Other stuff doesnt seem to be original, just straight translations from english sites. I'm not a computer programmer obviously, but I suspect you won't find much original material about computer chess techniques.


Incidently, my own site gets a lot of referrers from sites such as http://www.chessit.net/ where they translate whole pages off my site. Seems to be translated by humans though, unless they have much better machine translators.

What few originals i see seem to be discussing how to adapt international chess computer programming techniques to chinese chess.

http://cchessengine.512j.com/computer/c ... tboard.htm for example *appears* to be a discussion of how to use bitboards to for knights (in chinese chess their "knights"/horses can be blocked) moves. Also there are rules in chinese chess about how kings can be opposing each other in the same file, so there are discussions about how to handle that etc..

I don't seem to see anywhere where you can download any engine though. The domainname itself doesnt mean it hosts a engine I think.

That site is mainly about chinese chess.

As stated in that website, the webmaster (nicknamed auntyellow) is trying to adopt the idea of computer chess, such as "Winboard" and "UCI" into computer chinese chess programming.