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Hi.

I think this questions has been asked before, but I can't find the topic.

I am getting an AMD64 computer and would like to compile Naum and try it on WinXP-64

Is there MSVC or IntelC available for 64-bit and does anyone have a link to more info about it?
I would also need a link for the 64-bit SDK with RTLs.

I also tried to use the PGO with the VC2005 beta2, but it complains that it can't find pgodb80.dll. Help!

Thanks,
Alex

I have ordered the current microsoft visual studio professional beta from the microsoft web-page (cost: 5 dollar). It is delivered as a CD and contains a 64 bit compiler that is not included in the visual studio environment but can be called from command-line.

Greetings Volker

Thanks for the info Volker.
I will check to see if it is possible to download the beta.

Alex

Hi,

last time I looked you needed a msdn-abbo password to download the beta.

Greetings Volker

Volker, could this be ordered in Germany for $5? Did you have a look at the EULA? Will it expire? At which date? My Visual C++ Express beta, that I downloaded was already expired at the time I downloaded it, according to the EULA.

Cheers,
Dieter

Dieter B?r?ner wrote:Volker, could this be ordered in Germany for $5? Did you have a look at the EULA? Will it expire? At which date? My Visual C++ Express beta, that I downloaded was already expired at the time I downloaded it, according to the EULA.

Cheers,
Dieter

In the Team Suite it states;

PORTIONS OF THE SOFTWARE ARE DESIGNED TO CEASE FUNCTIONING ON MAY 1, 2006. OTHER PORTIONS OF THE SOFTWARE ARE DESIGNED TO CEASE FUNCTIONING 365 DAYS FROM THE DATE FIRST INSTALLED. NOTICE OF EXPIRATION WILL NOT BE GIVEN, SO RECIPIENT NEEDS TO PLAN FOR THE EXPIRATION DATE AND REMOVE RECIPIENT’S DATA PRIOR TO SUCH EXPIRATION.

I am sure it would be the same for the Express version.

Naum wrote:Hi.
I also tried to use the PGO with the VC2005 beta2, but it complains that it can't find pgodb80.dll. Help!

Thanks,
Alex

You need to run the program in the same environment as it was compiled. I recommend that you use the command prompt for the Visual C.

Bryan Hofmann wrote:

Dieter B?r?ner wrote:Volker, could this be ordered in Germany for $5? Did you have a look at the EULA? Will it expire? At which date? My Visual C++ Express beta, that I downloaded was already expired at the time I downloaded it, according to the EULA.

Cheers,
Dieter

In the Team Suite it states;

PORTIONS OF THE SOFTWARE ARE DESIGNED TO CEASE FUNCTIONING ON MAY 1, 2006. OTHER PORTIONS OF THE SOFTWARE ARE DESIGNED TO CEASE FUNCTIONING 365 DAYS FROM THE DATE FIRST INSTALLED. NOTICE OF EXPIRATION WILL NOT BE GIVEN, SO RECIPIENT NEEDS TO PLAN FOR THE EXPIRATION DATE AND REMOVE RECIPIENT?S DATA PRIOR TO SUCH EXPIRATION.

I am sure it would be the same for the Express version.

Thanks, Alex. Here eula.1033.txt, that came with the Express version, states:

NOTICE: THE SOFTWARE IS TIME SENSITIVE AND IS DESIGNED TO CEASE FUNCTIONING ON MARCH 1, 2005. NOTICE OF EXPIRATION WILL NOT ACTIVELY BE GIVEN SO YOU NEED TO PLAN FOR THE EXPIRATION DATE AND, PRIOR TO SUCH EXPIRATION, MAKE A COPY OF AND REMOVE YOUR DATA THAT YOU WISH TO USE IN THE FUTURE.

"ON MARCH 1, 2005" ... I downloaded it April 2005.

In a computer magazine, I read that Visual C++ 2005 Express edition will cost 49 $. I wonder, if this will include the normal compiler with all optimization options? Earlier cheap MSVC versions did have (most?) optimization options disabled.

Regards,
Dieter


Regards,
Dieter

Hi Volker,

So how did you get the password. Is it free?

Thanks,
Alex

Hi Bryan,

Which version do you use?
I always compile and run the program from the command line (running vcvars.bat of course).
I can't find pgodb80.dll on my hard drive at all.
I think that they are just not including PGO in their express products which are free.

Regards,
Alex

Naum wrote:Hi Bryan,

Which version do you use?
I always compile and run the program from the command line (running vcvars.bat of course).
I can't find pgodb80.dll on my hard drive at all.
I think that they are just not including PGO in their express products which are free.

Regards,
Alex

The PGO capability is not in the Express version.

Bryan Hofmann wrote:[The PGO capability is not in the Express version.

Bryan, do you know, if this also will be true for the commercial version? I assume, you meant the beta here?

Regards,
Dieter

Dieter B?r?ner wrote:

Bryan Hofmann wrote:[The PGO capability is not in the Express version.

Bryan, do you know, if this also will be true for the commercial version? I assume, you meant the beta here?

Regards,
Dieter

Yes I was speaking of the beta version. I have no idea if MS plans to include it into the final Express version.


Bryan

Dieter B?r?ner wrote:

Bryan Hofmann wrote:[The PGO capability is not in the Express version.

Bryan, do you know, if this also will be true for the commercial version? I assume, you meant the beta here?

To answer my own question. From http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/f ... px#visualc

Does Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition include the "optimizing compiler"

Yes, Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition includes the same core optimizing compiler that will be included with all other Visual Studio 2005 editions. It should be noted that some new expanded optimization features, including Profile Guided Optimizations, will be available only in the Professional and above editions of Visual Studio 2005.

A pity - but I one cannot ask for too much for 49$

There seems to be a rather new beta (called beta 2) available. At least I cannot remember to have seen this beta 2:

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/v ... fault.aspx

Regards,
Dieter

Hi Alex,

I don?t have any passwort, that?s why I ordered the DVD.

Sorry, Volker