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Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 19:22Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 20:16who tryed "MultiCut pruning" and can tell me more about his experience ?
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 20:45Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 20:48Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 20:56Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 21:00Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:Hi Danieal,who tryed "MultiCut pruning" and can tell me more about his experience ?
this is unknown to me. Where could I read about it (no sources please)?
Reinhard.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 22:09Daniel Mehrmann wrote:Hello,
who tryed "MultiCut pruning" and can tell me more about his experience ?
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 22:45Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 23:15Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 23:33
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Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 00:07Robert Allgeuer wrote:In the Crafty (18.15) reference implementation MPC does not pay off.
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 01:02Robert Allgeuer wrote:In the Crafty (18.15) reference implementation MPC does not pay off. As a matter of interest I have included this Crafty MPC version in the YABRL rating list: 7 ELO or so improvement over the standard 18.15, hence no improvement.
The MPC version searches one or even two plies deeper, which is probably a gain, but MPC wrecks at the same time the engine?s tactical capabilities, which apparently "compensates" this gain.
Robert
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 08:08MPC (MultiProbCut) is not the same as MultiCut , despite the similar names. As far as I know, nobody has experimented with MultiCut in Crafty.
MPC
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Rank Engine Games Wins Draws Points Score %
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1. Tytan Chess 2.76 220 91 51 116,5 52,95
2. KnightDreamer 3.0 20 11 6 14,0 70,00
3. Bringer 1.9 20 8 8 12,0 60,00
4. Averno 040 20 8 6 11,0 55,00
5. Horizon 3.0 20 8 5 10,5 52,50
6. Amateur 2.3 20 9 3 10,5 52,50
7. Resp 20 10 0 10,0 50,00
8. Ant 6.06 20 7 5 9,5 47,50
9. Baron 0.99.2 20 6 7 9,5 47,50
10. ButcherMPPS 20 5 4 7,0 35,00
11. Beowolf 2.2 20 4 5 6,5 32,50
12. Ax 20 2 2 3,0 15,00
without MPC
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Rank Engine Games Wins Draws Points Score %
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1. Tytan Chess 2.76 220 96 35 113,5 51,59
2. Bringer 1.9 20 14 3 15,5 77,50
3. Baron 0.99.2 20 12 4 14,0 70,00
4. Beowolf 2.2 20 10 5 12,5 62,50
5. KnightDreamer 3.0 20 8 7 11,5 57,50
6. Horizon 3.0 20 10 1 10,5 52,50
7. Ant 6.06 20 9 3 10,5 52,50
8. ButcherMPPS 20 8 1 8,5 42,50
9. Resp 20 5 4 7,0 35,00
10. Amateur 2.3 20 5 3 6,5 32,50
11. Ax 20 4 2 5,0 25,00
12. Averno 040 20 4 2 5,0 25,00Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 18:09Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 18:58Dieter B?r?ner wrote:[quote="Daniel MehrmannYou will find a PDF document on my Homer webpage: http://www.homerchess.com (see Chessprogramming link)
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 21:15Daniel Mehrmann wrote:Dieter B?r?ner wrote:Daniel Mehrmann wrote:You will find a PDF document on my Homer webpage: http://www.homerchess.com (see Chessprogramming link)
Daniel, is it the same article, I mentioned? When I click on the link above, I get the infamous: "Die Seite kann nicht angezeigt werden."
Ops, here are the correct link: http://www.homer-chess.com
Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 00:10Dieter B?r?ner wrote:The article on your page is not identical to the article I cited above in this discussion. Googling for Marsland multicut did not seem to find the article on your page. I wonder: Where do you get this article? Why doesn't google find it? (Google typically has no problems to find .pdf and .ps(.?) files).
Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 21:32Dieter B?r?ner wrote:Daniel Mehrmann wrote:Dieter B?r?ner wrote:Daniel Mehrmann wrote:You will find a PDF document on my Homer webpage: http://www.homerchess.com (see Chessprogramming link)
Daniel, is it the same article, I mentioned? When I click on the link above, I get the infamous: "Die Seite kann nicht angezeigt werden."
Ops, here are the correct link: http://www.homer-chess.com
Thanks Daniel - it works now. Also sorry for f+#ing up the quoting.
The article on your page is not identical to the article I cited above in this discussion. Googling for Marsland multicut did not seem to find the article on your page. I wonder: Where do you get this article? Why doesn't google find it? (Google typically has no problems to find .pdf and .ps(.?) files).
Cheers,
Dieter
Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 23:47Posted: 11 Jun 2005, 07:27