TSCP, MSCP and SCP !

[Frank]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?
Kind regards
Frank

[Dann Corbit]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?

As far as I know, only MSCP can be used as a Winboard engine of these three. It should not be too difficult to convert the others, if someone wants to do that.

Insoweit ich weiß, nur MSCP als Maschine Winboard von diesen drei verwendet werden kann. Es sollte nicht zu schwierig sein, die anderen umzuwandeln, wenn jemand das tun möchte.

[Pete Galati]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?
Kind regards
Frank

As Dann mentioned in this thread MSCP can run in Winboard. I have not worked out how to do that, and at the moment I no longer have the one that I downloaded at Dann's site, I only have one that I compiled as a Dos program, but those can't run with Winboard. I know that MSCP can be compiled and used with Xboard in Linux.
I should get a MS compiler and learn how to edit Chess program code to run with Winboard.
In a way, both TSCP and SCP are allready being used with Winboard because many Winboard programs owe allot to them. GNUchess started life as SCP, probably many more programs are based on GNUchess. And Skaki and Tristram both owe a great deal to TSCP.
If you want to try MSCP with Winboard then let me know because I'll email you the opening book and text file that are from the Unix ftp (it's server is not working at the moment) because they don't seem to be included at Dann's site.
Pete

[Pete Galati]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?
Kind regards
Frank

As Dann mentioned in this thread MSCP can run in Winboard. I have not worked out how to do that, and at the moment I no longer have the one that I downloaded at Dann's site, I only have one that I compiled as a Dos program, but those can't run with Winboard. I know that MSCP can be compiled and used with Xboard in Linux.
I should get a MS compiler and learn how to edit Chess program code to run with Winboard.
In a way, both TSCP and SCP are allready being used with Winboard because many Winboard programs owe allot to them. GNUchess started life as SCP, probably many more programs are based on GNUchess. And Skaki and Tristram both owe a great deal to TSCP.
If you want to try MSCP with Winboard then let me know because I'll email you the opening book and text file that are from the Unix ftp (it's server is not working at the moment) because they don't seem to be included at Dann's site.
Pete

Frank,
I gave MSCP from Dann's site another try. You can't play a Winboard game against it yourself, but with some other programs it will operate in the 2 engine mode with many errors, pieces from the other side of the board will often disapear for no reason (probably related to a search that MSCP made where it captured that piece). So I'm not really sure what to say about it, MSCP almost works for WB.
Pete

[Frank]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?

As far as I know, only MSCP can be used as a Winboard engine of these three. It should not be too difficult to convert the others, if someone wants to do that.

Insoweit ich weiß, nur MSCP als Maschine Winboard von diesen drei verwendet werden kann. Es sollte nicht zu schwierig sein, die anderen umzuwandeln, wenn jemand das tun möchte.

Dann,
I hope that another person can make this. Where can I find more information about MSCP. I will looking this and make an little test with MSCP.

Can you help ?
Kind regards
Frank

[Frank]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?
Kind regards
Frank

As Dann mentioned in this thread MSCP can run in Winboard. I have not worked out how to do that, and at the moment I no longer have the one that I downloaded at Dann's site, I only have one that I compiled as a Dos program, but those can't run with Winboard. I know that MSCP can be compiled and used with Xboard in Linux.
I should get a MS compiler and learn how to edit Chess program code to run with Winboard.
In a way, both TSCP and SCP are allready being used with Winboard because many Winboard programs owe allot to them. GNUchess started life as SCP, probably many more programs are based on GNUchess. And Skaki and Tristram both owe a great deal to TSCP.
If you want to try MSCP with Winboard then let me know because I'll email you the opening book and text file that are from the Unix ftp (it's server is not working at the moment) because they don't seem to be included at Dann's site.
Pete

Frank,
I gave MSCP from Dann's site another try. You can't play a Winboard game against it yourself, but with some other programs it will operate in the 2 engine mode with many errors, pieces from the other side of the board will often disapear for no reason (probably related to a search that MSCP made where it captured that piece). So I'm not really sure what to say about it, MSCP almost works for WB.
Pete

Pete,
OK, but importent is a can play against MSCP !
Then I make an detail site for MSCP !!
Where can I find more information about this program ?
Have you an URL ?
Greetings
Frank

[Pete Galati]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?
Kind regards
Frank

As Dann mentioned in this thread MSCP can run in Winboard. I have not worked out how to do that, and at the moment I no longer have the one that I downloaded at Dann's site, I only have one that I compiled as a Dos program, but those can't run with Winboard. I know that MSCP can be compiled and used with Xboard in Linux.
I should get a MS compiler and learn how to edit Chess program code to run with Winboard.
In a way, both TSCP and SCP are allready being used with Winboard because many Winboard programs owe allot to them. GNUchess started life as SCP, probably many more programs are based on GNUchess. And Skaki and Tristram both owe a great deal to TSCP.
If you want to try MSCP with Winboard then let me know because I'll email you the opening book and text file that are from the Unix ftp (it's server is not working at the moment) because they don't seem to be included at Dann's site.
Pete

Frank,
I gave MSCP from Dann's site another try. You can't play a Winboard game against it yourself, but with some other programs it will operate in the 2 engine mode with many errors, pieces from the other side of the board will often disapear for no reason (probably related to a search that MSCP made where it captured that piece). So I'm not really sure what to say about it, MSCP almost works for WB.
Pete

Pete,
OK, but importent is a can play against MSCP !
Then I make an detail site for MSCP !!
Where can I find more information about this program ?
Have you an URL ?
Greetings
Frank

This ftp has the original source code but their server seems to be broken right now (as I recall, a FreeBds server): ftp://caissa.onenet.net/pub/chess/Unix/
The only place that I've ever seen it allready compiled (only the exe file though) is at Dann Corbit's site. I'll paste the text file in to this post since you won't be able to get it until they figure out what's wrong with their server, it also has the programmers email address at the end of it, I have not tried to contact him, maybe he has revised code by now(?).
Pete
(things get re formatted when I paste them in to the forum so things are a liitle bit different)
This is MSCP 1.0 (Marcel's Simple Chess Program)
The thing is not completed yet, and perhaps it will never
be. But it plays chess, and can be used with xboard 4.0.0
to some extend. I will only change things if it won't
grow the code a lot, and I can find the time to do so.
Some nice features include:
- It plays from the console, xboard 4.0.0 or robofics.
- On freechess.org it is currently rated about 1700 after
2500 five minute games.
- It comes with it's own short opening book
- It can read and write moves in standard algebraic notation.
- It has transposition tables.
Some not so nice features include:
- The evaluation and search are extremely simple.
- Some things in the code are done rather clumsy, or even wrong.
I don't really care, so don't mail me about it.
For the rest, just enjoy,
Marcel
-- _ _
_| |_|_|
|_ |_ marcelk@stack.nl
|_| Marcel van Kervinck

[Frank]

Then to drift farther from the original topic, the catagory of Simple Chess programs that many people aren't so aware of: TSCP (Tom Kerrigan's Simple Chess program), SCP (John Stanbeck's Chess program, gnuchess grew from this) and MSCP (Marcel van Kervinck Simple Chess Program).
Pete

Hello Pete,
I reading over this programs in CCC and I see this programs on the FTP site from Dann !
Running this programs under Winboard ?
Kind regards
Frank

As Dann mentioned in this thread MSCP can run in Winboard. I have not worked out how to do that, and at the moment I no longer have the one that I downloaded at Dann's site, I only have one that I compiled as a Dos program, but those can't run with Winboard. I know that MSCP can be compiled and used with Xboard in Linux.
I should get a MS compiler and learn how to edit Chess program code to run with Winboard.
In a way, both TSCP and SCP are allready being used with Winboard because many Winboard programs owe allot to them. GNUchess started life as SCP, probably many more programs are based on GNUchess. And Skaki and Tristram both owe a great deal to TSCP.
If you want to try MSCP with Winboard then let me know because I'll email you the opening book and text file that are from the Unix ftp (it's server is not working at the moment) because they don't seem to be included at Dann's site.
Pete

Frank,
I gave MSCP from Dann's site another try. You can't play a Winboard game against it yourself, but with some other programs it will operate in the 2 engine mode with many errors, pieces from the other side of the board will often disapear for no reason (probably related to a search that MSCP made where it captured that piece). So I'm not really sure what to say about it, MSCP almost works for WB.
Pete

Pete,
OK, but importent is a can play against MSCP !
Then I make an detail site for MSCP !!
Where can I find more information about this program ?
Have you an URL ?
Greetings
Frank

This ftp has the original source code but their server seems to be broken right now (as I recall, a FreeBds server): ftp://caissa.onenet.net/pub/chess/Unix/
The only place that I've ever seen it allready compiled (only the exe file though) is at Dann Corbit's site. I'll paste the text file in to this post since you won't be able to get it until they figure out what's wrong with their server, it also has the programmers email address at the end of it, I have not tried to contact him, maybe he has revised code by now(?).
Pete
(things get re formatted when I paste them in to the forum so things are a liitle bit different)
This is MSCP 1.0 (Marcel's Simple Chess Program)
The thing is not completed yet, and perhaps it will never
be. But it plays chess, and can be used with xboard 4.0.0
to some extend. I will only change things if it won't
grow the code a lot, and I can find the time to do so.
Some nice features include:
- It plays from the console, xboard 4.0.0 or robofics.
- On freechess.org it is currently rated about 1700 after
2500 five minute games.
- It comes with it's own short opening book
- It can read and write moves in standard algebraic notation.
- It has transposition tables.
Some not so nice features include:
- The evaluation and search are extremely simple.
- Some things in the code are done rather clumsy, or even wrong.
I don't really care, so don't mail me about it.
For the rest, just enjoy,
Marcel
-- _ _
_| |_|_|
|_ |_ marcelk@stack.nl
|_| Marcel van Kervinck

Hello Pete,
thanks for this information, I looking in the evening
Greetings
Frank

[Dann Corbit]

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Dann,
I hope that another person can make this. Where can I find more information about MSCP. I will looking this and make an little test with MSCP.

MSCP is superceded by blik:
http://bitpit.net/blik/
That page has a link to the program. The readme for the program has the following:
This is MSCP 1.0 (Marcel's Simple Chess Program)
The thing is not completed yet, and perhaps it will never
be. But it plays chess, and can be used with xboard 4.0.0
to some extend. I will only change things if it won't
grow the code a lot, and I can find the time to do so.
Some nice features include:
- It plays from the console, xboard 4.0.0 or robofics.
- On freechess.org it is currently rated about 1700 after
2500 five minute games.
- It comes with it's own short opening book
- It can read and write moves in standard algebraic notation.
- It has transposition tables.
Some not so nice features include:
- The evaluation and search are extremely simple.
- Some things in the code are done rather clumsy, or even wrong.
I don't really care, so don't mail me about it.
For the rest, just enjoy,
Marcel
-- _ _
_| |_|_|
|_ |_ marcelk@stack.nl
|_| Marcel van Kervinck