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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby Volker Pittlik » 27 Sep 2004, 16:48

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 17:48:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 17:28:52:

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This link only shows "new" unread posts, not "all" posts. If i want to see all posts, i have to check each category. Really very unsatisfactory. :-(
If you are loged in the link "View posts since last visit" does exactly that.
If you click it you see all posts in all categories.
Regards
Volker



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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby David Dahlem » 27 Sep 2004, 16:56

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 17:56:59:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 17:48:42:
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This link only shows "new" unread posts, not "all" posts. If i want to see all posts, i have to check each category. Really very unsatisfactory. :-(
If you are loged in the link "View posts since last visit" does exactly that.
If you click it you see all posts in all categories.
Regards
Volker
If i click "View posts since last visit", i don't see "all" posts in all categories. In fact, if there are no new posts, i see nothing. Instead i get a message "No topics or posts met your search criteria".
Regards
Dave
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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby Volker Pittlik » 27 Sep 2004, 17:21

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 18:21:10:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 17:56:59:

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If i click "View posts since last visit", i don't see "all" posts in all categories. In fact, if there are no new posts, i see nothing. Instead i get a message "No topics or posts met your search criteria".
Right I just missed a post too. I will have a look what has gone wrong. Usually it shows the expected behaviour.
Regards
Volker



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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby David Dahlem » 27 Sep 2004, 17:25

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 18:25:43:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 18:21:10:
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If i click "View posts since last visit", i don't see "all" posts in all categories. In fact, if there are no new posts, i see nothing. Instead i get a message "No topics or posts met your search criteria".
Right I just missed a post too. I will have a look what has gone wrong. Usually it shows the expected behaviour.
Regards
Volker
The major problem i have with this new format is all the different categories. Why the need for "categories"? The current forum doesn't have categories. If there was only one category, i would not be as unhappy with the new format. :-)
Regards
Dave
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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby Volker Pittlik » 27 Sep 2004, 17:40

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 18:40:35:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 18:25:43:

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The major problem i have with this new format is all the different categories. Why the need for "categories"? The current forum doesn't have categories. If there was only one category, i would not be as unhappy with the new format. :-)
That is a general problem indeed. You don't like categories at all,
others complained because there is much of this or that in the main forum.
They send me mails "threatening" me of stop reading the forum and so on.
Now we have 4 main categories
- General (expected to be the same as here)
- Tournaments (was a subject of complaints)
- Programming (maybe of special interest for some)
- Related software and Smalltalk (really new, already united)
The look if there are new messages four clicks are necessary.
Usually indicated by a symbol.
- Test (maybe not so interesting to read it in the long run)
Regards
Volker



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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby David Dahlem » 27 Sep 2004, 17:57

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 18:57:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 18:40:35:
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The major problem i have with this new format is all the different categories. Why the need for "categories"? The current forum doesn't have categories. If there was only one category, i would not be as unhappy with the new format. :-)
That is a general problem indeed. You don't like categories at all,
others complained because there is much of this or that in the main forum.
They send me mails "threatening" me of stop reading the forum and so on.
Now we have 4 main categories
- General (expected to be the same as here)
- Tournaments (was a subject of complaints)
- Programming (maybe of special interest for some)
- Related software and Smalltalk (really new, already united)
The look if there are new messages four clicks are necessary.
Usually indicated by a symbol.
- Test (maybe not so interesting to read it in the long run)
Regards
Volker
I already see what is going to happen. A new post will be made to one category, such as "tournaments", then the discussion will the thread into another category, such as "programming". So users still have to check each category to find messages they are interested in. Is there going to be any rule or law about posting in the wrong category?
The current format is very easy to navigate, with one click i can open the forum, scroll down and see "all" messages.
Regards
Dave
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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby David Dahlem » 27 Sep 2004, 18:07

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 19:07:52:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: Admin Volker Pittlik at 26 September 2004 20:34:16:

Hi Volker
I just noticed something. If a user posts a message with a text/background color combination that is hard to read, and i reply to that post with default colors, my reply gets posted in the same colors as the original post.
Regards
Dave
I would like to infom you that after some time of preparation is going to move within the next two weeks.
The new URL is http://wbforum.volker-pittlik.name/.
The new forum is already activated. You are welcome to register and post there.
The registration process runs automatically and takes only a few minutes.
The passwords of this forum do not work over there. The passwords are encryted.
Nobody can read them and therefore you have to register again.
In two weeks from now on no new postings are possible in this forum.
Therefore I suggest everyone to register at the new forum soon.
The old forum will stay online until March 2005 so everbody can download
the archives and search for important messages.
Some things are different in the new forum. Some will miss something. But
take a look and you will see that the new forum offers a lot more features
as this one.
- You can choose a language for the help files, board messages and so on
- Send private messages and emails
- Post tables without fiddling around with HTML
and much more.
Hope to see you over there soon.
Regards
Volker
P.S. No entrance fees and no donations :-)
David Dahlem
 

Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby David Dahlem » 27 Sep 2004, 18:18

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 19:18:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 19:07:52:
Hi Volker
I just noticed something. If a user posts a message with a text/background color combination that is hard to read, and i reply to that post with default colors, my reply gets posted in the same colors as the original post.
Regards
Dave
I would like to infom you that after some time of preparation is going to move within the next two weeks.
The new URL is http://wbforum.volker-pittlik.name/.
The new forum is already activated. You are welcome to register and post there.
The registration process runs automatically and takes only a few minutes.
The passwords of this forum do not work over there. The passwords are encryted.
Nobody can read them and therefore you have to register again.
In two weeks from now on no new postings are possible in this forum.
Therefore I suggest everyone to register at the new forum soon.
The old forum will stay online until March 2005 so everbody can download
the archives and search for important messages.
Some things are different in the new forum. Some will miss something. But
take a look and you will see that the new forum offers a lot more features
as this one.
- You can choose a language for the help files, board messages and so on
- Send private messages and emails
- Post tables without fiddling around with HTML
and much more.
Hope to see you over there soon.
Regards
Volker
P.S. No entrance fees and no donations :-)
Further testing shows that all threads opened using the search button display white text on a gray background. Opening messages in the normal way, text is in black.
Regards
Dave
David Dahlem
 

Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby David Dahlem » 27 Sep 2004, 19:25

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 20:25:49:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: David Dahlem at 27 September 2004 19:18:42:
Hi Volker
I just noticed something. If a user posts a message with a text/background color combination that is hard to read, and i reply to that post with default colors, my reply gets posted in the same colors as the original post.
Regards
Dave
I would like to infom you that after some time of preparation is going to move within the next two weeks.
The new URL is http://wbforum.volker-pittlik.name/.
The new forum is already activated. You are welcome to register and post there.
The registration process runs automatically and takes only a few minutes.
The passwords of this forum do not work over there. The passwords are encryted.
Nobody can read them and therefore you have to register again.
In two weeks from now on no new postings are possible in this forum.
Therefore I suggest everyone to register at the new forum soon.
The old forum will stay online until March 2005 so everbody can download
the archives and search for important messages.
Some things are different in the new forum. Some will miss something. But
take a look and you will see that the new forum offers a lot more features
as this one.
- You can choose a language for the help files, board messages and so on
- Send private messages and emails
- Post tables without fiddling around with HTML
and much more.
Hope to see you over there soon.
Regards
Volker
P.S. No entrance fees and no donations :-)
Further testing shows that all threads opened using the search button display white text on a gray background. Opening messages in the normal way, text is in black.
Regards
Dave
I just discovered that when searching, the "searched for" text will be displayed in white. So i was searching, from a tip by Franz Huber, with an asterisk "*" in the search field. This resulted in all text to be displayed in white. So if the "white" highlighted text was changed to a different, more readable color, such a blue, there would be no problems with searching in this manner. :-)
Regards
Dave
David Dahlem
 

Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby Peter Fendrich » 28 Sep 2004, 00:47

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 28 September 2004 01:47:05:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: Volker Pittlik at 27 September 2004 11:43:37:
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I think that people make their judgements too early.
The two links that you mention really make a difference.
After some more poking around I found some very neat functions that makes life easier
but I still have some dubitations about dividing the forum into different areas.
Maybe it would be better to have fewer areas?
Is it possible to have a tree view like in this forum?


I agree to have to much would be bad. I've learned to have more than seven will confuse the users.
Which sub forums would you suggest to unify?
I suggest to wait with changes some days until more non-test postings show up.
Unfortunately no. That is the only feature I'll miss.
I think that the description "General - discussion about Winboard/Xboard and related topics." includes even "Related Software".
Skip "Smalltalk" - it will show up in all forums anyway. So what?
Now you have 3 forums left.
All forums will not be 100% clean from OT - so what?
I can't see what the problem is with shifting areas that some people complains about. If you are at General, for instance, there is no big deal with selecting the next forum (Tournaments) in the right bottom corner. I would have to press PageDown anyway in this forum...
IMO there are 3 useful links in order to navigate:
"forumindex" - in the left upper part of the window
"My posts" - in the right upper part at Forumindex
"Show new posts.." in the right upper part at Forumindex
and when looking at one forum, "go to forum" - in the right lower part.
wise man...:-)
Yes, that's a pity.
/Peter



Terra
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Re: *** Important: This forum is going to move ***

Postby fiscus » 02 Oct 2004, 06:05

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: fiscus at 02. October 2004 07:05:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: *** Important: This forum is going to move *** geschrieben von:/posted by: Admin Volker Pittlik at 26 September 2004 20:34:16:

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Congrats Volker ! The new forum looks fine. I will register soon.

greetings
Daniel
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