New Winboard Manager (WinMan).

[Alex Guerrero]

I decided to do available WinMan (Winboard Manager).

http://es.geocities.com/winboard_chess/

Characteristics:
-Engine Manager for winboard.ini.
-Board design. Winboard X and F maybe need it.
-Tournament Manager (RoundRobin and Gauntlet).
-WinMan installs Uci engines.
-You must copy WinMan and its files to folder winboard.
-WinMan works with winboard.ini in format:
"Name" /fcp="Engine.exe" /fd="Path" or
"Engine.exe" /fd="Path"

Test it with a copy of your winboard.ini.

Regards.

[Richard Allbert]

Very nice, I look forward to trying it.

One problem / request, though.

I have written a tourmanet creator myself - uses a text file with the settings, the main reason being that I can run as many successive engines I want as gauntlet engines.

E.g I want to play a Gauntlet vs the same 5 oppenents with four test versions of my engine, without running the tournaments one at a time - all four versions run each gauntlet one after the other.

Is it possible to add the "multiple gauntlet engine" feature to you software?

Thanks

Richard
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[Alex Guerrero]

Very interesting... but difficult. I will see it... but why you want not gauntlets one at a time?
I understand as a tournament and after other automaticly.

[Richard Allbert]

Very interesting... but difficult. I will see it... but why you want not gauntlets one at a time?
I understand as a tournament and after other automaticly.

Because if I have five test verions that have to run the same gauntlet of 300 games each, I would rather leave the computer running all five tournaments together, as opposed to checking every morning and night whether the tournament has finished.

Basically, it's about time saving.

Richard

[H.G.Muller]

But you don't really care about the order of the games, do you?

[Richard Allbert]

No, quite right, am I missing something stupid?

I want to play

v1 vs 5 opp in 30 Noomen positions as white and black(60 games vs each opp)
v2 vs 5 opp in 30 Noomen positions as white and black(60 games vs each opp)
v3 vs 5 opp in 30 Noomen positions as white and black(60 games vs each opp)
v4 vs 5 opp in 30 Noomen positions as white and black(60 games vs each opp)

etc etc.... (of course I add these games to a RR btween the 5 opponents as white and balck from the starting position to make the elo calc something near accurate )

I have a self written batch file writer which will take my gauntlet engines and opponents (regardless how many of each) and create the above tournament for WB.

This is just to allow mass testing of variants on one computer.

Hence the request with a much better looking TM

Unless I am missing an easier way...

Richard

PS Thanks for you work updating winboard.

[Marc Lacrosse]

Is it possible to add the "multiple gauntlet engine" feature to you software?

This "multiple gauntlet" feature is what is commonly called "Scheveningen" mode tournament : there are two "teams" and every member of one team plays a match against each member of the other team.

This a very useful mode, not only for comparing several versions of the same program against a common set of opponents but also for comparing opening books.

Unfortunately no curently available tournament manager I know of does offer this feature.

So I wrote my own (running under windows) for UCI engines playing through WbX+Polyglot.

It a derivative of the tournament preprocessor that I have put for free on my website at http://chessbazaar.mlweb.info.

If you wish I may package this version for you.

Marc

[Matthias Gemuh]

This "multiple gauntlet" feature is what is commonly called "Scheveningen" mode tournament : there are two "teams" and every member of one team plays a match against each member of the other team.

This a very useful mode, not only for comparing several versions of the same program against a common set of opponents but also for comparing opening books.

Unfortunately no curently available tournament manager I know of does offer this feature.

Marc

ChessGUI has a team fight mode.

Matthias.

[Alex Guerrero]

I did other little program called "Match" with starting positions for Winboard-F.
If you wish get it here is link:

http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id3224139640.html

It is useful for faster games.

[Richard Allbert]

Hi Matthias,

Thanks for the notification - I didn't think of that option!

Great work, btw, on CHessGUI.

Richard

[Richard Allbert]

Thanks for the link, I've done almost exactly the same myself

Richard

[Richard Allbert]

Your fast tournament package is downloading now...

Thanks!


Richard

[Igor Gorelikov]

Very nice, I look forward to trying it.

One problem / request, though.

I have written a tourmanet creator myself - uses a text file with the settings, the main reason being that I can run as many successive engines I want as gauntlet engines.

E.g I want to play a Gauntlet vs the same 5 oppenents with four test versions of my engine, without running the tournaments one at a time - all four versions run each gauntlet one after the other.

Is it possible to add the "multiple gauntlet engine" feature to you software?

Thanks

Richard
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My IG WBTM 1.5 (0.2 Mb, made in 2006) can play multiple gauntlets.

http://iggor.110mb.com/tools/IG_WBTM_1-5.zip

Best regards,
Igor Gorelikov

[Alex Guerrero]

Updated WinMan 1.2b
- Problems with scrollbars in windows found.
- WinMan reports when files are not found.
- winboard.ini may be in other folder.

Regards

[Sven Schüle]

(of course I add these games to a RR btween the 5 opponents as white and balck from the starting position to make the elo calc something near accurate )

Of course!
Or has there been any doubt on this, by anyone, anywhere?

Sven

[Olivier Deville]

Hola Alex

Your tournament manager looks very promising !

I'll certainly give it a go as soon as one of the comps here is idle.

Olivier

[Alex Guerrero]

Good Luck Olivier !

[Mathieu]

Great tool!

One question : I wanted to add a font by editing the board.wbm file.
I added the line "<font>=<charset>" but if the font is well included in the list,
the "charset" remains the usual "pnbrqkomvtwl" that doesn't fit my needs (so I need to edit - a bit anoying since I often change when i play variants with fairy pieces).
Is there a way to automatically assign a chosen char set for a given font?

[Alex Guerrero]

Hi Mathieu, you are right.
I did available WinMan 1.2c which solve this problem.

Regards.

[Mathieu]

Quite reactive!

Unfortunately, that new version doesn't work on my computer. When I launch WinMan.exe, I get :
"Acces violation at adress 7C922C16 in module 'ntdll'. Write of adress 00404C4D"

EDIT : wrong description => error only when I click on the Board design menu.