new/updated engines

[Ron Murawski]

new/updated engines:

2008/11/04
BugChess2 1.6.3
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details1/BugChess2.html

2008/11/05
Cyclone 2.1
http://www.cyclonechess.com/download.html

2008/11/05
Alderon 1.0
http://www.cyclopschess.com/download.html

2008/11/05
OliThink 5.1.9
http://home.arcor.de/dreamlike/chess/index.html


Computer-chess Wiki: Chess Engine List

[Pablo]

Hi Ron:
The link to download Cyclone 2.1 do not work with my PC.
Please your comments.
Regards,
Pablo Urzua

new/updated engines:

2008/11/04
BugChess2 1.6.3
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details1/BugChess2.html

2008/11/05
Cyclone 2.1
http://www.cyclonechess.com/download.html

2008/11/05
Alderon 1.0
http://www.cyclopschess.com/download.html

2008/11/05
OliThink 5.1.9
http://home.arcor.de/dreamlike/chess/index.html


Computer-chess Wiki: Chess Engine List

[Ron Murawski]

Hi Pablo,

You are correct, the website link does not work!

Try this one instead:
http://www.cyclonechess.com/cyclone_2.1.rar

Ron

Hi Ron:
The link to download Cyclone 2.1 do not work with my PC.
Please your comments.
Regards,
Pablo Urzua

new/updated engines:

2008/11/04
BugChess2 1.6.3
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details1/BugChess2.html

2008/11/05
Cyclone 2.1
http://www.cyclonechess.com/download.html

2008/11/05
Alderon 1.0
http://www.cyclopschess.com/download.html

2008/11/05
OliThink 5.1.9
http://home.arcor.de/dreamlike/chess/index.html


Computer-chess Wiki: Chess Engine List

[Pablo]

Hi Ron
Thanks for the alternative link to download Cyclone 2.1.
It works OK but very slow.
Regards,
Pablo

[Norman Schmidt]

Hi Ron:
The link to download Cyclone 2.1 do not work with my PC.
Please your comments.
Regards,
Pablo Urzua

Sorry guys..the link was indeed broken, i have fixed ir.

thanks Ron for deducing and reporting a useable URL in the meantime.!

Norm

[Tony Thomas]

Hey ron, there is a private engine running on ICC with the handle DomochessX. The name of the engine is Dolphine and the author is Anthony Mathews, you should add it to your private list.

[Olivier Deville]

Hey ron, there is a private engine running on ICC with the handle DomochessX. The name of the engine is Dolphine and the author is Anthony Mathews, you should add it to your private list.

You may as well add it to the clones list

Olivier

[Ron Murawski]

Hey ron, there is a private engine running on ICC with the handle DomochessX. The name of the engine is Dolphine and the author is Anthony Mathews, you should add it to your private list.

You may as well add it to the clones list

Olivier

Hi Olivier,

Since Dolphine has not played in any tournaments I will not add it to the clone list. One of the DomoChessX ICC comments is this:
"I have done so to test the Learning of my program ..."

Not his program, but I will accept his purpose for playing on ICC as testing his learning code.

Ron

[Olivier Deville]

Hey ron, there is a private engine running on ICC with the handle DomochessX. The name of the engine is Dolphine and the author is Anthony Mathews, you should add it to your private list.

You may as well add it to the clones list

Olivier

Hi Olivier,

Since Dolphine has not played in any tournaments I will not add it to the clone list. One of the DomoChessX ICC comments is this:
"I have done so to test the Learning of my program ..."

Not his program, but I will accept his purpose for playing on ICC as testing his learning code.

Ron

Hi Ron

Sure, let's leave it alone.

A known tournament director got DomoChess last year in his mailbox and it was found to be a clone.

Olivier

[Tony Thomas]

Hey ron, there is a private engine running on ICC with the handle DomochessX. The name of the engine is Dolphine and the author is Anthony Mathews, you should add it to your private list.

You may as well add it to the clones list

Olivier

Hi Olivier,

Since Dolphine has not played in any tournaments I will not add it to the clone list. One of the DomoChessX ICC comments is this:
"I have done so to test the Learning of my program ..."

Not his program, but I will accept his purpose for playing on ICC as testing his learning code.

Ron

Hi Ron

Sure, let's leave it alone.

A known tournament director got DomoChess last year in his mailbox and it was found to be a clone.

Olivier

Who was it? Leo, you or Guenther??

[antzmatt]

Hello Mr.Olivier Deville & Mr.Ron Murawski

First of all let me tell you both & everyone else,I have nothing against any of you.

I see where your statements come from,but let me tell you that I am not the owner of DomoChessX,& I have nothing to do with that handle for more then last month or month & a half,at most.

The owner,who was my friend,said that he did not want to use domochessx anymore & that i could be using it for my program's testing,I liked the offer & accepted,a decision I now regret,but thats how it is,you learn from mistakes,i certainly got my lesson.

To avoid any further confusion I hereby have stopped using the concerned account & informed the owner of it & also asked him for an explanation of your statements.

I think your statements have got to do with him & not me.

I state here loud & clear that Dolphin is a program completely written by me,from scratch & without anyone's help,or using anyone Else's code.

I offer you the following :-

1. Mr.Deville & Mr.Murawski come up with a team that they deem fit for the purpose of scrutiny of my program,I have no issue with the members that you chose,till they are at least a known figure in chess computer community. I shall use Google & my friends advice over them.

2. The team will be handed a copy of a executable,current version,of Dolphin for scrutiny.I would assume a week's time should be enough for you to come to conclusion.If you think this is short,please state any definite period you feel is correct & needed for the purpose.

3. After the scrutiny,I would like your team to post their conclusions,openly in this place,this forum,this thread.

4. I would like the community to accept the decision of this team & therefore drop all charges against Dolphin.

5. Dolphin should,thereafter be treated as an original program for all times to come,I am not willing to do this again & again & again.& as a result be allowed to take part in tournaments etc.

6. My source code is & will always remain private,there are some tricks that i use,which i do not wish to make public or known to anyone,i believe i have the right to do so!

7. We shall accept the decision & I assure you that I will not hold this against against any of you for future to come.& enjoy computer chess,after all its just a hobby.

If you agree to the above proposal please let me know & we shall work towards executing it.

Regards,
Anthony

[Olivier Deville]

Hello Mr.Olivier Deville & Mr.Ron Murawski

First of all let me tell you both & everyone else,I have nothing against any of you.

I see where your statements come from,but let me tell you that I am not the owner of DomoChessX,& I have nothing to do with that handle for more then last month or month & a half,at most.

The owner,who was my friend,said that he did not want to use domochessx anymore & that i could be using it for my program's testing,I liked the offer & accepted,a decision I now regret,but thats how it is,you learn from mistakes,i certainly got my lesson.

To avoid any further confusion I hereby have stopped using the concerned account & informed the owner of it & also asked him for an explanation of your statements.

I think your statements have got to do with him & not me.

I state here loud & clear that Dolphin is a program completely written by me,from scratch & without anyone's help,or using anyone Else's code.

I offer you the following :-

1. Mr.Deville & Mr.Murawski come up with a team that they deem fit for the purpose of scrutiny of my program,I have no issue with the members that you chose,till they are at least a known figure in chess computer community. I shall use Google & my friends advice over them.

2. The team will be handed a copy of a executable,current version,of Dolphin for scrutiny.I would assume a week's time should be enough for you to come to conclusion.If you think this is short,please state any definite period you feel is correct & needed for the purpose.

3. After the scrutiny,I would like your team to post their conclusions,openly in this place,this forum,this thread.

4. I would like the community to accept the decision of this team & therefore drop all charges against Dolphin.

5. Dolphin should,thereafter be treated as an original program for all times to come,I am not willing to do this again & again & again.& as a result be allowed to take part in tournaments etc.

6. My source code is & will always remain private,there are some tricks that i use,which i do not wish to make public or known to anyone,i believe i have the right to do so!

7. We shall accept the decision & I assure you that I will not hold this against against any of you for future to come.& enjoy computer chess,after all its just a hobby.

If you agree to the above proposal please let me know & we shall work towards executing it.

Regards,
Anthony

Hi Anthony

Many thanks for your comments. I am glad to know you are not the "author" of DomoChess.

Thank you for offering your engine to be examined. First we would like to know more about you. Where do you live ? Are you going to release Dolphin at some stage and/or enter some tournaments ?

Olivier

[antzmatt]

Hello Oliver Deville,

I am glad you got the matter into my notification.Thank You.

About me :-

I am a 22 year old Computer Science student,An Indian-English by origin,My mother is Indian & father is English,I hold Dual citizenship with no voting rights in India,I live in Manchester,for most of the year,but every year since my birth,I come to India to spend time with my grandparents.

Got my first lesson of programming at the age of 5,when my grandfather managed to teach me to make a "Hello Everyone! I am Anthony,Have a good day" program in BASIC.which is more or less the "Hello World" program.

Got Into chess at age of seven,again due to my mother & grandpa.

Started learning C at the age of 14,

Started writing a chess engine at around a couple of years since then.

My grandpa has helped me a lot in structuring my code,avoiding certain types of methods etc.

Work on Dolphin started in 2005,December,when I was in India with my grandpa.

Dolphin has been under coding ever since.

I own a DELL Studio Laptop, Core 2 Duo T8100 4GB RAM.Win Vista Home Premium.

Unless a tournament is close by Manchester,I dont think i could make to the place,as I am also busy with my exams etc now.

But yes its planned for future,It should be nice to meet some other programmers with chess intrest & people related to the issue.

If Internet tournaments are organised,Dolphin shall take part.

I dont think I am ready for a release...my grandpa always told me,release a program only when there are no bugs,or when you are prepared to accept & fix bugs right away,I dont have time right now for correcting bugs,although I am not aware of any bug in Dolphin.

During the weekend of ACCA PAN-AM Championships,which i realised after being there,I found Mr.N Swaminathan & Mr.Tony Thomas,who ran internal tournaments on their machines & make comparison between engines.

These sorts of tournaments are acceptable to me,If there are any more that i could take part in,please inform me,you have my email address.

For that matter,Let me tell more about Dolphin now :-

1. Dolphin is a engine written in C under Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Pro.

2. Dolphin supports the most recent UCI protocol,created by Stefan Mayer-Kahlen.

3. Dolphin has the capability to make full use of upto 16 processors,provided they are in the same box,i.e. no cluster,because of Dolphin's Hash sharing.

4. I recently added Learning to Dolphin,which is not really proven to work,it caused some crashes,so its Disabled for now.

5. It is basically based on Magic Bitboard Move Generator scheme,but I only have 32-bit Operating system,hence the executables are compiled for 32-bit & tested on that only as well.

6. Equipped with decent search,& decent Evaluation,It churns out 200000 nps,or positions per second,on my machine,or 2000 kNPS.

7. Since I never though there exists a rating for chess programs,I do not know its current strength,but in terms of comparison against Human & small number of Oppoents I managed to play on ICC,It is around GM level.

If possible i would like to know about you as well,I hope you will not mind.

Thank you,
Anthony

[Ron Murawski]

Hello Mr.Olivier Deville & Mr.Ron Murawski

First of all let me tell you both & everyone else,I have nothing against any of you.

I see where your statements come from,but let me tell you that I am not the owner of DomoChessX,& I have nothing to do with that handle for more then last month or month & a half,at most.

The owner,who was my friend,said that he did not want to use domochessx anymore & that i could be using it for my program's testing,I liked the offer & accepted,a decision I now regret,but thats how it is,you learn from mistakes,i certainly got my lesson.

To avoid any further confusion I hereby have stopped using the concerned account & informed the owner of it & also asked him for an explanation of your statements.

I think your statements have got to do with him & not me.

I state here loud & clear that Dolphin is a program completely written by me,from scratch & without anyone's help,or using anyone Else's code.

I offer you the following :-

1. Mr.Deville & Mr.Murawski come up with a team that they deem fit for the purpose of scrutiny of my program,I have no issue with the members that you chose,till they are at least a known figure in chess computer community. I shall use Google & my friends advice over them.

2. The team will be handed a copy of a executable,current version,of Dolphin for scrutiny.I would assume a week's time should be enough for you to come to conclusion.If you think this is short,please state any definite period you feel is correct & needed for the purpose.

3. After the scrutiny,I would like your team to post their conclusions,openly in this place,this forum,this thread.

4. I would like the community to accept the decision of this team & therefore drop all charges against Dolphin.

5. Dolphin should,thereafter be treated as an original program for all times to come,I am not willing to do this again & again & again.& as a result be allowed to take part in tournaments etc.

6. My source code is & will always remain private,there are some tricks that i use,which i do not wish to make public or known to anyone,i believe i have the right to do so!

7. We shall accept the decision & I assure you that I will not hold this against against any of you for future to come.& enjoy computer chess,after all its just a hobby.

If you agree to the above proposal please let me know & we shall work towards executing it.

Regards,
Anthony

Hi Anthony,

Sorry for the rude welcome to computer chess. Sometimes we make mistakes.

I have added your engine to the private engine list!

Best regards,
Ron

[Olivier Deville]

Hi Anthony

I don't mind giving some info about me : I am 45, French. I organize chess tournaments for engines, and for real people alike. You will find a link at the bottom of this message.

I have asked some experts about the way we could check your engine. Unfortunately it appears you could send us a clean program, get our approval, and then enter any clone in any tournament. Feel free to send me a private copy if you like and I will have a look, but do not expect that I make any definitive statement.

Nowadays, tournament directors need to be very careful when they get a private engine in their mailbox. Sadly they very often are clones.

If you want to enter any of my tournaments, I offer the following procedure :

- In case you intend to keep your engine private, any executable must come with a compilable source. I will never release any chess engine on my own, so your tricks are safe.

- If you release your engine to the public, I will certainly take it in, unless the experts around find something against it.

Best regards,

Olivier

[antzmatt]

To Ron : Its ok,& Thank you for adding Dolphin in your list.I would like to know where can i find your these lists!

To Olivier : Nice to know about you.It hurts to see so much negative thought process,but i see where it comes from & do not blame you.

I have no intentions to ever send my code to anyone,but I have no issues sending the TD the version I will use,exactly the same version,to check its main line,move selections etc. This should suffice your first worry.This will hold true for every tournament I play,If the TD asks,I will send him a copy.Same is true for you & your tournament.

I have no reason to clone & use a clone at all,I am satisfied with my program,Chess Programming is just a hobby,& I will keep it to that.

I Do NOT deny that in future I may make a public release,if you so insist then you shall wait till then.

I see there is a talk about a tournament CCT that may be coming up,Dolphin will be taking part in it.

You can watch it play then.I will obey the requirements,Please watch it,I hope I see all these other programmers like me to talk to them over ICC

[Ron Murawski]

To Ron : Its ok,& Thank you for adding Dolphin in your list.I would like to know where can i find your these lists!

Hi Anthony,

Here is the page that leads to all the Computer-Chess Wiki lists:
http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=c ... ists:index

Best regards,
Ron

[Olivier Deville]

Hi Ron

You can add this one to the list :

Chronos by Pawel Koziol & Edmund Moshammer (Poland & Austria)

Olivier

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

To Ron : Its ok,& Thank you for adding Dolphin in your list.I would like to know where can i find your these lists!

Hi Anthony,

Here is the page that leads to all the Computer-Chess Wiki lists:
http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=c ... ists:index

Best regards,
Ron

Hi Ron,
Zzzzzz isn't private no more,there is a version available at master Jim's website for a while now

[Gábor Szots]

Unfortunately it appears you could send us a clean program, get our approval, and then enter any clone in any tournament.

Hi Olivier,

As far as I know, there are dozens of engines in your tournaments without source code supplied. Why are you making an exception with Dolphin?

Also, where is a tournament, even the World Championships, where anyone is obliged to provide his source code? No commercial would do so anyway.

Let's suppose innocence first. If it is a clone, we will find out sooner or later.