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Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

Postby Ubaldo Andrea Farina » 20 Jul 2011, 18:58

I know there is the option /serverMoves but with that Winboard will save the moves in a file that pgn4web can't read.
Arena can do that and I think also ChessGUI, I think it would be useful if also Winboard could do that.

BTW HG thanks for all the work on Winboard, after years of Scotti's Winboard_X I've switched to the new 4.5 and I like most of the new features, though I still have to implement the new "protocol 3" commands.
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Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

Postby matematiko » 23 Jul 2011, 15:46

Seems that you want to broadcast live games, maybe you already know but why do not try Tom's Chess Server/Viewer (http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/tlcv.html)?

pgn4web does not require a client, but is very simplistic, does not show clocks, thinking output and more information.

Other than this recommendation I guess the best solution is for Mr. HGM to make WinBoard write/append the pgn file in the fly, and yet this might not be the solution. Does pgn4web support reading pgn files as a single game? As a database (multiple games)? Or both. Because WinBoard appends new games to the declared file and this file becomes a database.

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Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

Postby Ubaldo Andrea Farina » 24 Jul 2011, 08:37

matematiko wrote:Seems that you want to broadcast live games, maybe you already know but why do not try Tom's Chess Server/Viewer (http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/tlcv.html)?


Yes, I wanted to broadcast Chiron's games at ACCA tournament.
I didn't use Tom's Chess Server because it requires the observers to install the viewer software. A web page is a simpler solution.

pgn4web does not require a client, but is very simplistic, does not show clocks, thinking output and more information.


AFAIK pgn4web can show all of these informations if properly configured.

Other than this recommendation I guess the best solution is for Mr. HGM to make WinBoard write/append the pgn file in the fly, and yet this might not be the solution. Does pgn4web support reading pgn files as a single game? As a database (multiple games)? Or both. Because WinBoard appends new games to the declared file and this file becomes a database.


Yes, it can do both. You can select which game to show as default and then the user can then watch also the other ones.
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Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

Postby H.G.Muller » 24 Jul 2011, 14:09

Well, this is not that simple, as it goes against the way WinBoard normally saves PGN files. It might be easier to fix pgn4web so that it can read the existing /serverMoves file format. Or use the ChessLive! viewer in stead, which already does.

I don't think it is a good design to transfer PGN for this purpose, as decoding it requires rule knowledge in the viewer.
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Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

Postby matematiko » 24 Jul 2011, 14:36

Ubaldo Andrea Farina wrote:AFAIK pgn4web can show all of these information if properly configured.


I am sorry about my erroneous comment, I was judging by the sample snapshots at its website.

To Mr. HGM

What is the file where the moves are parsed to when /serverMoves is on? Is it the debug file?

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Re: Can Winboard save the moves as soon as they are done?

Postby H.G.Muller » 24 Jul 2011, 15:07

No, you have to specify the file. Like /serverMoves=moves.txt if yoo want them on moves.txt.
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