Lordking2006 by Carlo Pivotto

[Peter Eizenhammer]

hello everybody,

have a look here:
http://digilander.libero.it/lordkingcp/
by Carlo Pivotto.

It looks strong,
(won a 10 game match vs. List512 at 1min/game+1sec/move;
yes, I know, bad bad time ).

No comment from me, but I hope it is a nice clean surprise just before christmas.

Peter

[Pablo]

hello everybody,

have a look here:
http://digilander.libero.it/lordkingcp/
by Carlo Pivotto.

It looks strong,
(won a 10 game match vs. List512 at 1min/game+1sec/move;
yes, I know, bad bad time ).

No comment from me, but I hope it is a nice clean surprise just before christmas.

Peter

Hi Peter:
Sorry for my ignorance.
How I open at Windows98/Winboard the Lordking engines ended in .7z ???.
Merry Christmas,
Pablo Urzua

[F.Huber]

How I open at Windows98/Winboard the Lordking engines ended in .7z ???.
Merry Christmas,
Pablo Urzua

Hi Pablo,

have a look here: http://www.7-zip.org/

Also Merry Christmas to you,
Franz.

[Graham Banks]

Which is the strongest personality of the four?

[Uri Blass]

hello everybody,

have a look here:
http://digilander.libero.it/lordkingcp/
by Carlo Pivotto.

It looks strong,
(won a 10 game match vs. List512 at 1min/game+1sec/move;
yes, I know, bad bad time ).

No comment from me, but I hope it is a nice clean surprise just before christmas.

Peter

Which version?
Which opening positions?

Movei00_8_335 at the same time control in the nunn1 match is leading 6-5 against serafinus and leading in game 12 so it does not seem to me to be as strong as List512.

Uri

[Peter Eizenhammer]

@Pablo:
Hello Pablo,
Franz already gave the link to the useful tool 7zip,
there should be no problem, if you install it in addition to the compression tool you have currently in use, I use even 7zip only today;
the only real disadvantage i noticed the last time when i checked the features was
that it could not repair broken archives, but this is rarely needed
and might be different in the latest version.

@ Graham:
Well, I dont know yet, but a first little test at 1 min bullet games without increment
gave the following ranking:
1. caiozzz 15/29
2. serafinus 14,5/29
3. light 14,5/29
4.quartax 14/29
Looks like there is no really weak version, and Carlo will certainly give some hint at some time in the future.

@ Uri:
it was the caiozzz personality that played the first 10 games and took the lead with 5,5 : 4,5 after ten games.
Any engine that can win a ten game match against List 512 is strong imho,
but of course I did not say that it is better than List 512, I just did not. Did I?
Later List won more games and was ahead of LK, guess it was 20:12 when i stopped.
But I have a feeling as if more serious games are needed

Fine that your movie is so strong now and can win against LK ...

And what opening positions:
it was standard chess, no frc or fischer random or whatever variant.
But seriously: my post was just a little hint, no tournament report.

@ Franz:
thx for the many useful hints you gave in the past, keep up the good work!

@ Everybody:
Merry Christmas (or at least dont feel insulted if you dont care about christmas)
and many thx for all the pleasure you gave.

Peter

[Uri Blass]

Movei beated serafinus 12-8 in the nunn match but now it is lost against
quartex 15-5 in the same nunn match.

Note that I understand that it was standard chess but both list and LordKing come with no opening book so I do not see the point of playing with them with no opening book so nunn match type(or different predefined opening positions) make more sense to test them.

Uri

[Peter Eizenhammer]

Movei beated serafinus 12-8 in the nunn match but now it is lost against
quartex 15-5 in the same nunn match.

Note that I understand that it was standard chess but both list and LordKing come with no opening book so I do not see the point of playing with them with no opening book so nunn match type(or different predefined opening positions) make more sense to test them.

Uri

Hello Uri,

I was just kidding, sorry.

I always give the same book to both engines, no matter if they have an own book or not.
In this case it was the wizard 4 by Dr. Wael Deeb, iirc,
and this book has been heavily changed by me, to eliminate some dubious lines.
(It still contains mistakes or bad lines, no doubt,
but it may be better now than before, and it was a very good base for some tuning from the very beginning,
I dont complain about the book, it was useful and good work, but may be better now for testing engines
under fair conditions.)
(always ask a beginner what exactly he has done, you cant rely on him, I agree.)

thx for the new results.
So there is still some hope

Peter

[Pablo]

Hello Peter and Franz:
Many thanks for your guide and comments about the program 7zip.
I did not know of his existance.
Merry Christmas again for both.
Pablo

@Pablo:
Hello Pablo,
Franz already gave the link to the useful tool 7zip,
there should be no problem, if you install it in addition to the compression tool you have currently in use, I use even 7zip only today;
the only real disadvantage i noticed the last time when i checked the features was
that it could not repair broken archives, but this is rarely needed
and might be different in the latest version.

@ Graham:
Well, I dont know yet, but a first little test at 1 min bullet games without increment
gave the following ranking:
1. caiozzz 15/29
2. serafinus 14,5/29
3. light 14,5/29
4.quartax 14/29
Looks like there is no really weak version, and Carlo will certainly give some hint at some time in the future.

@ Uri:
it was the caiozzz personality that played the first 10 games and took the lead with 5,5 : 4,5 after ten games.
Any engine that can win a ten game match against List 512 is strong imho,
but of course I did not say that it is better than List 512, I just did not. Did I?
Later List won more games and was ahead of LK, guess it was 20:12 when i stopped.
But I have a feeling as if more serious games are needed

Fine that your movie is so strong now and can win against LK ...

And what opening positions:
it was standard chess, no frc or fischer random or whatever variant.
But seriously: my post was just a little hint, no tournament report.

@ Franz:
thx for the many useful hints you gave in the past, keep up the good work!

@ Everybody:
Merry Christmas (or at least dont feel insulted if you dont care about christmas)
and many thx for all the pleasure you gave.

Peter

[Pablo]

How I open at Windows98/Winboard the Lordking engines ended in .7z ???.
Merry Christmas,
Pablo Urzua

Hi Pablo,

have a look here: http://www.7-zip.org/

Also Merry Christmas to you,
Franz.

Hi Franz and/or Peter:
After descompressing the LordKing2006 engines with your help, I try to play with them at Winboard, but the engines did not make any move nor read the opening books used with version 4.0 and also they apparentlydid not read the old Lordking.cfg file . Please tell me what I am doing wrong now. I do not use any parameter at the winboard.ini command line and I am using Windows98SE operating system.
Best wishes,
Pablo

[F.Huber]

Hi Franz and/or Peter:
After descompressing the LordKing2006 engines with your help, I try to play with them at Winboard, but the engines did not make any move nor read the opening books used with version 4.0 and also they apparentlydid not read the old Lordking.cfg file . Please tell me what I am doing wrong now. I do not use any parameter at the winboard.ini command line and I am using Windows98SE operating system.
Best wishes,
Pablo

Hello Pablo,

this version of LordKing is no Winboard-engine, it uses the UCI-protocol!
So the best will be running it under Arena (in UCI mode of course).

Regards,
Franz.

[Pablo]

Hi Franz and/or Peter:
After descompressing the LordKing2006 engines with your help, I try to play with them at Winboard, but the engines did not make any move nor read the opening books used with version 4.0 and also they apparentlydid not read the old Lordking.cfg file . Please tell me what I am doing wrong now. I do not use any parameter at the winboard.ini command line and I am using Windows98SE operating system.
Best wishes,
Pablo

Hello Pablo,

this version of LordKing is no Winboard-engine, it uses the UCI-protocol!
So the best will be running it under Arena (in UCI mode of course).

Regards,
Franz.

Hi Franz,
??Elementary Watson!!
Pablo

[Peter Eizenhammer]

new result:

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 LordKing2006Quartax  61,5/113
 List512  51,5/113

timecontrol 1min/game + 1sec/move.
Arena1.1, AthlonXP2000+, changed wizardpro4 book by Dr. Wael Deeb.

Guess this supports my first impression that LK is quite strong
(and yes, I hate these people who always say they knew it, too )

Peter

[Graham Banks]

But which is the best of the four engines?

I see Olivier (Chess Wars) uses Lord King 2006 Light, so I guess that must be the best?

[Graham Banks]

Carlo just replied to my query in the WBEC forum about which personality was strongest.
He recommends Quartax.

[Graham Banks]

Seems as though Lord King 2006 could be a Toga clone according to Alex Schmidt's post on CCC plus the email I just received from Christopher Conkie.