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by **Robert Allgeuer** » 28 Oct 2006, 00:49

Somehow different pharaon version do not want to play against each other (in Winboard 4.2.7, I have observed it with earlier pharaon versions). It seems that Winboard somehow confuses the two sides? Anyone who understands this?

Thanks
Robert

Code: Select all: recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal WinBoard 4.2.7 + Pharaon351 Reset(1, 0) from gameMode 0 recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal GameEnds(0, (null), 2) StartChildProcess (dir="f:\chess\pharaon_3.5.1") Pharaon351 581 >first : xboard protover 2 1392 <first : feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.5.1" variants="normal,fischerandom" colors=1 ics=1 name=1 done=1 1392 >first : accepted ping 1392 >first : accepted setboard 1392 >first : accepted playother 1402 >first : accepted san 1402 >first : accepted usermove 1402 >first : accepted time 1402 >first : accepted draw 1402 >first : accepted sigint 1402 >first : accepted sigterm 1402 >first : accepted reuse 1402 >first : accepted analyze 1402 >first : accepted myname 1402 >first : accepted variants 1402 >first : accepted colors 1402 >first : accepted ics 1402 >first : accepted name 1402 >first : accepted done 1412 >first : new random 1412 >first : ics - 1412 >first : level 0 5 2 1412 >first : post 1412 >first : hard 1412 >first : easy 1412 >first : ping 1 1412 >first : force StartChildProcess (dir="f:\chess\pharaon_3.3") Pharaon 1913 >second: xboard protover 2 1913 <first : pong 1 2624 <second: feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.3" variants="normal" colors=1 ics=1 name=1 done=1 2624 >second: accepted ping 2624 >second: accepted setboard 2624 >second: accepted playother 2624 >second: accepted san 2624 >second: accepted usermove 2624 >second: accepted time 2624 >second: accepted draw 2634 >second: accepted sigint 2634 >second: accepted sigterm 2634 >second: accepted reuse 2634 >second: accepted analyze 2634 >second: accepted myname 2634 >second: accepted variants 2634 >second: accepted colors 2634 >second: accepted ics 2634 >second: accepted name 2634 >second: accepted done 2644 >second: new random 2644 >second: ics - 2644 >second: level 0 5 2 2644 >second: post 2644 >second: hard 2644 >second: easy 2644 >second: ping 1 2644 >second: force 2654 >first : computer 2654 >first : name Pharaon 3.3 2654 >second: computer 2654 >second: name Pharaon 3.5.1 2654 >first : black 2654 >first : time 30000 otim 30000 2654 >first : white 2654 >first : go 2664 <second: pong 1 2674 <first : 1. ... d2d4 2674 >second: time 30000 otim 30198 2674 >second: d2d4 2674 >second: black 2674 >second: go 2814 <second: 1. ... d7d5 Interrupting first 2814 >first : time 30198 otim 30186 2814 >first : d7d5 3134 <first : 1. ... d7d5 Interrupting second 3134 >second: time 30186 otim 30366 3134 >second: d7d5 3144 <first : 2. ... g1f3 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 3 3144 <first : 2. ... g8f6 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 3 3144 <first : 3. ... c2c4 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 3 3144 <first : 3. ... d5c4 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 3 3144 <second: 2. ... g1f3 Interrupting first 3144 >first : time 30366 otim 30385 3144 >first : g1f3 3495 <second: 2. ... g8f6 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 3. ... c2c4 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 3. ... d5c4 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 4. ... e2e3 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 4. ... e7e6 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 5. ... f1c4 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 5. ... c7c5 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 6. ... e1g1 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 6. ... a7a6 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 7. ... d4c5 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 7. ... d8d1 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 8. ... f1d1 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 8. ... f8c5 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <second: 9. ... a2a3 Ignoring move out of turn by second, gameMode 5, forwardMost 4 3495 <first : 4. ... b1c3 Interrupting second 3495 >second: time 30385 otim 30530 3495 >second: b1c3 3925 <first : 4. ... e7e6 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 5 3925 <first : 5. ... d1a4 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 5 3925 <first : 5. ... b8c6 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 5 3925 <first : Illegal move (d7d5) 3976 <first : 6. -2 0 29776 e4 Bb4 Bg5 Bd7 Bxf6 Qxf6 Bxc4 3976 <first : Illegal move (g1f3) 4036 <first : 6-> -2 1 65637 e4 Bb4 Bg5 Bd7 Bxf6 Qxf6 Bxc4 4036 <first : 7. -61 1 101231 e4 Bb4 Bg5 Bd7 Qd1 b5 Ne5 4096 <first : 7. -61 1 110180 e3! 4196 <second: Illegal move (d7d5) 4216 <second: Illegal move (b1c3) 4376 <first : 7. -4 1 140209 e3 Bd7 Qxc4 Nb4 Nb5 c6 Na3 4406 <second: 6. -40 0 23119 b5 Be2 O-O b4 Bb6 Nc3 4446 <second: 6-> -40 0 29944 b5 Be2 O-O b4 Bb6 Nc3 4707 <first : 7. -4 2 189354 Ne5! 4717 <second: 7. -31 1 69365 b5 Bd3 Bb7 a4 Bxf3 gxf3 b4 4837 <second: 7-> -31 1 85713 b5 Bd3 Bb7 a4 Bxf3 gxf3 b4 4847 <first : 7. -1 2 207593 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Be7 Nxd7 Qxd7 e3 O-O 5137 <first : 7. -1 2 247447 Bd2! 5157 <second: 8. -48 1 137556 b5 Bd3 O-O b4 Bb6 Nc3 Nc6 5348 <second: 8. -48 1 168551 Nc6! 5408 <first : 7. 14 3 285882 Bd2 Bb4 Ne5 Bd7 Nxc6 Bxc3 Bxc3 5438 <second: 8. -47 1 180815 Nc6 b4 Bb6 Nbd2 O-O Bb2 a5 Bxf6 gxf6 bxa5 5568 <first : 7-> 14 3 310547 Bd2 Bb4 Ne5 Bd7 Nxc6 Bxc3 Bxc3 6209 <second: 8-> -47 2 295773 Nc6 b4 Bb6 Nbd2 O-O Bb2 a5 Bxf6 gxf6 bxa5 6319 <first : 8. -31 3 415127 Bd2 Bb4 Ne5 Bxc3 bxc3 Qd5 Qxc4 Nxe5 Qxd5 exd5 dxe5 6539 <first : 8. -31 4 451465 Ne5! 7420 <second: 9. -34 3 481482 Nc6 b4 Be7 Bb2 O-O Ne5 Nxe5 Bxe5 a5 b5 7751 <first : 8. 20 5 625807 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Qxd7 e4 b5 Qd3 8372 <first : 8-> 20 5 718691 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Qxd7 e4 b5 Qd3 8762 <second: 9. -34 5 689764 O-O! 9503 <second: 9. -30 5 793734 O-O b4 Be7 Bb2 b5 Bd3 Rd8 a4 Bd7 axb5 Bxb5 Bxf6 9564 <second: 9-> -30 5 804256 O-O b4 Be7 Bb2 b5 Bd3 Rd8 a4 Bd7 axb5 Bxb5 Bxf6 10295 <first : 9. 6 7 995849 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Qxd7 Bg5 Na5 Qb5 Qxb5 Nxb5 11586 <second: 10. -42 7 1140814 O-O b4 Be7 Nc3 a5 b5 Bd7 e4 Rc8 Ne5 14731 <second: 10. -42 11 1651466 b5! 14811 <first : 9-> 6 12 1669427 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Qxd7 Bg5 Na5 Qb5 Qxb5 Nxb5 14911 <second: 10. -42 11 1676612 O-O b4 Be7 Nc3 a5 b5 Bd7 e4 Rc8 Ne5 15993 <second: 10-> -42 12 1851479 O-O b4 Be7 Nc3 a5 b5 Bd7 e4 Rc8 Ne5 20960 <first : 10. 11 18 2608646 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Qxd7 e3 Nb4 Nb5 O-O Be2 22743 <second: 9. ... e8g8 22743 >first : time 30923 otim 29067 22743 >first : e8g8 22923 <first : Illegal move (e8g8) 23864 <second: 6. 32 0 2115 b4 Be7 23864 <second: 6-> 32 0 4032 b4 Be7 23864 <second: 7. 32 0 4034 b4 Be7 23904 <second: 7-> 32 0 7949 b4 Be7 23904 <second: 8. 32 0 7951 b4 Be7 23934 <second: 8-> 32 0 13851 b4 Be7 23934 <second: 9. 32 0 13853 b4 Be7 24695 <second: 9-> 32 1 140529 b4 Be7 24695 <second: 10. 32 1 140531 b4 Be7 24856 <first : 10-> 11 22 3190136 Ne5 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Qxd7 e3 Nb4 Nb5 O-O Be2 24856 <first : 6. ... f3e5 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 1 24906 <first : 6. -11 0 2687 Bd7 Qxc4 24906 <first : 6-> -11 0 2714 Bd7 Qxc4 24906 <first : 7. -11 0 2715 Bd7 Qxc4 24906 <first : 7-> -11 0 2742 Bd7 Qxc4 24906 <first : 8. -11 0 2743 Bd7 Qxc4 24906 <first : 8-> -11 0 2770 Bd7 Qxc4 24906 <first : 9. -11 0 2771 Bd7 Qxc4 24996 <first : 9-> -11 0 20109 Bd7 Qxc4 26558 <second: 10-> 32 3 445740 b4 Be7 29813 <first : 10. -8 5 763679 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Nxd7 g3 Qf6 Bg2 Qxd4 Qxd4 Nxd4 Bxb7 Rd8 34900 <second: 11. 42 11 1803585 b4 Be7 Nc3 Bd7 Ne5 Rd8 e4 a5 b5 35521 <first : 10-> -8 11 1604926 Bd7 Qxc4 Bd6 Nxd7 Nxd7 g3 Qf6 Bg2 Qxd4 Qxd4 Nxd4 Bxb7 Rd8 38245 <second: 11-> 42 14 2305602 b4 Be7 Nc3 Bd7 Ne5 Rd8 e4 a5 b5 38245 <second: 10. ... b2b4 38245 >first : time 31105 otim 27735 38245 >first : b2b4 38315 <first : Illegal move (b2b4)

by **Guenther Simon** » 28 Oct 2006, 08:10

I did a test after your message and it seems Pharaon 3.51
at least does weird things.
In a game against Pharaon 3.3 it played/sent _all_ moves up
to move 13 for _both_ colours despite WB already stopped
this illegal behaviour after the first move.
It seems it sends whole book trees as if they were moves?
I hope Franck reads this and can say more about what's
wrong here?
Currently I have no idea why this should only happen against
other Pharaon versions and yes as in your example(and always here)
both versions did _not_ share any files but had their own
folder with all files.

Regards,
Guenther

Below are the WB debug and both log files from 3.51
and 3.3.

Code: Select all: recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal WinBoard 4.2.7 + Pharaon_351 Reset(1, 0) from gameMode 0 recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal GameEnds(0, (null), 2) StartChildProcess (dir="c:\WB\All\Pharaon_351") Pharaon_351 1342 >first : xboard protover 2 5558 <first : feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.5.1" variants="normal,fischerandom" colors=1 ics=1 name=1 done=1 5558 >first : accepted ping 5558 >first : accepted setboard 5558 >first : accepted playother 5568 >first : accepted san 5568 >first : accepted usermove 5568 >first : accepted time 5568 >first : accepted draw 5568 >first : accepted sigint 5568 >first : accepted sigterm 5568 >first : accepted reuse 5568 >first : accepted analyze 5568 >first : accepted myname 5568 >first : accepted variants 5568 >first : accepted colors 5568 >first : accepted ics 5578 >first : accepted name 5578 >first : accepted done 5598 >first : new random 5598 >first : ics - 5598 >first : level 40 120 0 5598 >first : post 5598 >first : hard 5598 >first : easy 5598 >first : ping 1 5628 <first : pong 1 Reset(1, 1) from gameMode 0 recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal GameEnds(0, (null), 2) 12578 >first : force 12578 >first : ping 2 12658 >first : new random 12658 >first : ics - 12658 >first : level 40 2 0 12658 >first : post 12658 >first : hard 12658 >first : easy 12668 >first : ping 3 12768 <first : pong 2 12778 <first : pong 3 14992 >first : force StartChildProcess (dir="c:\WB\All\Pharaon_33") Pharaon_33 16113 >second: xboard protover 2 26118 >second: new random 26118 >second: level 40 2 0 26118 >second: post 26118 >second: hard 26118 >second: easy 26118 >second: force 26118 >first : computer 26118 >first : name Pharaon_33 26118 >second: computer 26118 >first : black 26128 >first : time 12000 26128 >first : otim 12000 26128 >first : white 26128 >first : go 28150 <first : 1. ... e2e4 28321 >second: time 12000 28321 >second: otim 11780 28321 >second: e2e4 28321 >second: black 28321 >second: go 29192 <first : 1. ... e7e5 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 1 30073 <first : 2. ... g1f3 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 1 30414 <second: feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.3" variants="normal" colors=1 ics=1 name=1 done=1 Interrupting second 30424 >second: accepted ping 30424 >second: accepted setboard 30424 >second: accepted playother 30424 >second: accepted san 30424 >second: accepted usermove 30424 >second: accepted time 30424 >second: accepted draw 30424 >second: accepted sigint 30424 >second: accepted sigterm 30424 >second: accepted reuse 30434 >second: accepted analyze 30434 >second: accepted myname 30434 >second: accepted variants 30434 >second: accepted colors 30434 >second: accepted ics 30434 >second: accepted name 30434 >second: accepted done 30964 <first : 2. ... b8c6 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 1 31395 <first : 3. ... f1b5 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 1 31746 <first : 3. ... a7a6 Ignoring move out of turn by first, gameMode 5, forwardMost 1 32016 <second: 1. ... e7e5 Interrupting first 32016 >first : time 11780 32016 >first : otim 11630 32016 >first : e7e5 32226 <first : 4. ... b5a4 GameEnds(32, Forfeit due to illegal move, 4) Interrupting first 32236 >first : result 0-1 {Forfeit due to illegal move} Interrupting second 32236 >second: result 0-1 {Forfeit due to illegal move} 32467 >first : force 32467 >first : ping 4 32467 >second: force 32467 >second: ping 1 32487 <second: pong 1 32837 <first : 4. ... g8f6 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 32837 >first : undo 32977 <first : 5. ... e1g1 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 32977 >first : undo 33158 <first : 5. ... f8e7 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33158 >first : undo 33268 <first : 6. ... f1e1 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33268 >first : undo 33358 <first : 6. ... b7b5 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33368 >first : undo 33468 <first : 7. ... a4b3 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33468 >first : undo 33558 <first : 7. ... e8g8 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33558 >first : undo 33618 <first : 8. ... c2c3 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33618 >first : undo 33698 <first : 8. ... d7d6 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33698 >first : undo 33769 <first : 9. ... h2h3 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33769 >first : undo 33869 <first : 9. ... h7h6 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33869 >first : undo 33929 <first : 10. ... d2d4 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 33929 >first : undo 34009 <first : 10. ... f8e8 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34009 >first : undo 34089 <first : 11. ... b1d2 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34089 >first : undo 34149 <first : 11. ... e7f8 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34159 >first : undo 34219 <first : 12. ... d2f1 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34219 >first : undo 34299 <first : 12. ... c8b7 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34299 >first : undo 34379 <first : 13. ... f1g3 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34379 >first : undo 34449 <first : 13. ... c6a5 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34449 >first : undo 34550 <first : 14. ... b3c2 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34550 >first : undo 34610 <first : 14. ... a5c4 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34620 >first : undo 34690 <first : 15. ... c2d3 Undoing extra move from first, gameMode 8 34690 >first : undo 34830 <first : Illegal move (e7e5) 35892 <first : Updating 'z_book.bin' : 15 changes 35892 <first : pong 4 GameEnds(0, (null), 2) 171877 >first : quit 172478 >second: quit

Code: Select all: Pharaon 3.5.1 on a Intel 651Mhz with 384MB of RAM By Franck ZIBI (fzibi@yahoo.com). Application name : c:\WB\All\Pharaon_351\Pharaon_351.exe For the last versions, visit: http://www.fzibi.com/pharaon.htm 06:52:18.309 Found TableBase Files, up to 5 men 06:52:18.319 HashTables set to 128 MB (8388611 entries) 06:52:18.319 Null Move: USE_NULL_MOVE:-1;USE_ZUGZWANG_HEURISTIC;VERIF_SEARCH;MATE_THREAT; 06:52:18.319 Learning : ENABLE_BLUNDER_LEARNING;ENABLE_BOOK_LEARNING; 06:52:18.339 96237 entries found in the Opening Book (z_book.bin) 06:52:18.379 <xboard 06:52:18.379 <protover 2 06:52:18.379 feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.5.1" variants="normal,fischerandom" colors=1 ics=1 name=1 done=1 06:52:18.409 <accepted ping 06:52:18.409 <accepted setboard 06:52:18.409 <accepted playother 06:52:18.409 <accepted san 06:52:18.409 <accepted usermove 06:52:18.409 <accepted time 06:52:18.409 <accepted draw 06:52:18.409 <accepted sigint 06:52:18.409 <accepted sigterm 06:52:18.409 <accepted reuse 06:52:18.409 <accepted analyze 06:52:18.409 <accepted myname 06:52:18.409 <accepted variants 06:52:18.409 <accepted colors 06:52:18.409 <accepted ics 06:52:18.409 <accepted name 06:52:18.419 <accepted done 06:52:18.429 <new 06:52:18.439 Loading style book 'z_style.txt'... 06:52:18.439 Done : 0 lines and 0 distinct moves found in 'z_style.txt' 06:52:18.439 <random 06:52:18.449 <ics - 06:52:18.449 <level 40 120 0 06:52:18.449 <post 06:52:18.449 <hard 06:52:18.449 Enable Pondering 06:52:18.449 <easy 06:52:18.449 Disable Pondering 06:52:18.449 <ping 1 06:52:18.449 pong 1 06:52:25.579 <force 06:52:25.589 <ping 2 06:52:25.589 pong 2 06:52:25.589 <new 06:52:25.599 <random 06:52:25.599 <ics - 06:52:25.599 <level 40 2 0 06:52:25.599 <post 06:52:25.599 <hard 06:52:25.599 Enable Pondering 06:52:25.599 <easy 06:52:25.599 Disable Pondering 06:52:25.599 <ping 3 06:52:25.599 pong 3 06:52:27.823 <force 06:52:38.969 <computer 06:52:38.979 <name Pharaon_33 06:52:38.979 <black 06:52:38.979 <time 12000 06:52:38.979 <otim 12000 06:52:38.979 <white 06:52:38.979 <go d4 {0.14} 40% ( 36439 games) scoring 57% => 56 Pts (0.61*57+0.30*54+0.09*57) Ng1f3 {0.14} 11% ( 9692 games) scoring 56% => 55 Pts (0.61*56+0.30*54+0.09*56) e4 {0.15} 38% ( 33944 games) scoring 56% => 55 Pts (0.61*56+0.30*54+0.09*56) c4 {-0.07} 10% ( 9274 games) scoring 56% => 54 Pts (0.61*56+0.30*48+0.09*56) g3 {-0.09} 1% ( 768 games) scoring 53% => 0 Pts b3 {-0.13} 0% ( 185 games) scoring 54% => 0 Pts f4 {-0.17} 0% ( 105 games) scoring 48% => 0 Pts Nb1c3 {0.13} 0% ( 19 games) scoring 55% => 0 Pts b4 {-0.37} 0% ( 18 games) scoring 39% => 0 Pts a3 {-0.04} 0% ( 5 games) scoring 20% => 0 Pts c3 {-0.22} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 38% => 0 Pts d3 {-0.09} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts e3 {-0.06} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:40.972 1. ... e2e4 e5 {-0.15} 24% ( 8207 games) scoring 44% => 44 Pts (0.48*44+0.24*46+0.29*44) e6 {-0.29} 12% ( 4242 games) scoring 45% => 44 Pts (0.48*45+0.24*43+0.29*45) c5 {-0.43} 46% ( 15686 games) scoring 45% => 44 Pts (0.48*45+0.24*39+0.29*45) c6 {-0.57} 8% ( 2667 games) scoring 44% => 0 Pts d6 {-0.4} 4% ( 1277 games) scoring 41% => 0 Pts g6 {-0.47} 2% ( 799 games) scoring 42% => 0 Pts Ng8f6 {-0.41} 2% ( 592 games) scoring 41% => 0 Pts d5 {-0.41} 1% ( 314 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts Nb8c6 {-0.32} 0% ( 129 games) scoring 46% => 0 Pts b6 {-0.54} 0% ( 28 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts a6 {-0.59} 0% ( 3 games) scoring 17% => 0 Pts 06:52:42.013 1. ... e7e5 Ng1f3 {0.15} 94% ( 7691 games) scoring 56% => 56 Pts (0.48*56+0.24*54+0.29*56) f4 {-0.84} 2% ( 166 games) scoring 54% => 0 Pts Nb1c3 {0.13} 2% ( 164 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts Bc4 {0.12} 2% ( 158 games) scoring 54% => 0 Pts d4 {-0.14} 0% ( 23 games) scoring 59% => 0 Pts d3 {-0.09} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:42.894 2. ... g1f3 Nb8c6 {-0.15} 88% ( 6835 games) scoring 44% => 45 Pts (0.48*44+0.24*46+0.29*44) Ng8f6 {-0.28} 10% ( 767 games) scoring 42% => 0 Pts d6 {-0.29} 2% ( 124 games) scoring 33% => 0 Pts Qd8e7 {-0.75} 0% ( 5 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:43.786 2. ... b8c6 Bb5 {0.15} 79% ( 5449 games) scoring 56% => 56 Pts (0.48*56+0.24*54+0.29*56) Bc4 {0.13} 9% ( 597 games) scoring 56% => 0 Pts d4 {0.05} 7% ( 461 games) scoring 57% => 0 Pts Nb1c3 {0.13} 5% ( 309 games) scoring 52% => 0 Pts c3 {-0.04} 1% ( 35 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts Be2 {0.03} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 63% => 0 Pts 06:52:44.216 3. ... f1b5 a6 {-0.15} 84% ( 4553 games) scoring 44% => 44 Pts (0.48*44+0.24*46+0.29*44) Ng8f6 {-0.3} 9% ( 512 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts g6 {-0.4} 2% ( 114 games) scoring 46% => 0 Pts f5 {-0.88} 2% ( 83 games) scoring 45% => 0 Pts Bc5 {-0.35} 1% ( 67 games) scoring 49% => 0 Pts Ng8e7 {-0.33} 1% ( 47 games) scoring 41% => 0 Pts Nc6d4 {-0.36} 1% ( 42 games) scoring 38% => 0 Pts d6 {-0.42} 0% ( 27 games) scoring 37% => 0 Pts Bb4 {-0.49} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 38% => 0 Pts 06:52:44.567 3. ... a7a6 Ba4 {0.11} 92% ( 4207 games) scoring 56% => 56 Pts (0.48*56+0.24*53+0.29*56) Bxc6 {0.15} 8% ( 344 games) scoring 53% => 0 Pts 06:52:45.047 4. ... b5a4 Ng8f6 {-0.11} 91% ( 3810 games) scoring 44% => 44 Pts (0.48*44+0.24*47+0.29*44) d6 {-0.36} 8% ( 351 games) scoring 44% => 0 Pts b5 {-0.15} 0% ( 20 games) scoring 38% => 0 Pts g6 {-0.4} 0% ( 14 games) scoring 29% => 0 Pts f5 {-0.59} 0% ( 6 games) scoring 58% => 0 Pts Ng8e7 {-0.55} 0% ( 5 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:45.658 4. ... g8f6 O-O {0.11} 94% ( 3587 games) scoring 57% => 56 Pts (0.48*57+0.24*53+0.29*57) Qd1e2 {-0.06} 3% ( 97 games) scoring 52% => 0 Pts d3 {0.01} 2% ( 69 games) scoring 55% => 0 Pts d4 {0.05} 1% ( 35 games) scoring 53% => 0 Pts Nb1c3 {0.01} 0% ( 17 games) scoring 56% => 0 Pts Bxc6 {-0.17} 0% ( 8 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:45.799 5. ... e1g1 Be7 {-0.2} 78% ( 2800 games) scoring 43% => 44 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*45+0.23*43) Nf6xe4 {-0.38} 11% ( 381 games) scoring 43% => 42 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*41+0.23*43) b5 {-0.11} 8% ( 300 games) scoring 49% => 0 Pts Bc5 {-0.39} 2% ( 72 games) scoring 49% => 0 Pts d6 {-0.34} 1% ( 44 games) scoring 42% => 0 Pts 06:52:45.979 5. ... f8e7 Rf1e1 {0.06} 90% ( 2515 games) scoring 58% => 55 Pts (0.38*58+0.38*52+0.23*58) Bxc6 {0.16} 4% ( 120 games) scoring 53% => 0 Pts Qd1e2 {0.05} 3% ( 86 games) scoring 55% => 0 Pts d3 {0.11} 1% ( 37 games) scoring 59% => 0 Pts d4 {0.05} 1% ( 29 games) scoring 47% => 0 Pts Nb1c3 {0.2} 1% ( 20 games) scoring 60% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.089 6. ... f1e1 b5 {-0.06} 97% ( 2439 games) scoring 42% => 45 Pts (0.38*42+0.38*49+0.23*42) d6 {-0.24} 3% ( 83 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.179 6. ... b7b5 Bb3 {0.06} 100% ( 2465 games) scoring 58% => 55 Pts (0.38*58+0.38*52+0.23*58) 06:52:46.289 7. ... a4b3 d6 {-0.06} 58% ( 1444 games) scoring 42% => 45 Pts (0.38*42+0.38*49+0.23*42) O-O {-0.12} 41% ( 1018 games) scoring 43% => 44 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*47+0.23*43) Bb7 {-0.2} 0% ( 11 games) scoring 45% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.379 7. ... e8g8 c3 {0.03} 61% ( 622 games) scoring 58% => 55 Pts (0.38*58+0.38*51+0.23*58) a4 {0.12} 21% ( 210 games) scoring 54% => 53 Pts (0.38*54+0.38*53+0.23*54) h3 {-0.02} 7% ( 76 games) scoring 63% => 0 Pts d3 {0.06} 6% ( 62 games) scoring 64% => 0 Pts d4 {0.08} 4% ( 46 games) scoring 53% => 0 Pts a3 {-0.06} 0% ( 4 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts Nb1c3 {0.06} 0% ( 3 games) scoring 67% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.439 8. ... c2c3 d6 {-0.03} 90% ( 1802 games) scoring 41% => 44 Pts (0.38*41+0.38*49+0.23*41) d5 {-0.82} 10% ( 191 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.510 8. ... d7d6 h3 {0.03} 84% ( 1623 games) scoring 59% => 56 Pts (0.38*59+0.38*51+0.23*59) d4 {0.02} 7% ( 133 games) scoring 55% => 0 Pts d3 {-0.02} 7% ( 132 games) scoring 60% => 0 Pts a4 2% ( 33 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts a3 {-0.12} 1% ( 19 games) scoring 47% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.590 9. ... h2h3 h6 {-0.16} 11% ( 184 games) scoring 45% => 45 Pts (0.38*45+0.38*46+0.23*45) Bb7 {-0.05} 18% ( 287 games) scoring 42% => 45 Pts (0.38*42+0.38*49+0.23*42) Nc6b8 {-0.1} 20% ( 330 games) scoring 43% => 45 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*48+0.23*43) Nc6a5 {-0.06} 29% ( 469 games) scoring 39% => 42 Pts (0.38*39+0.38*49+0.23*39) Nf6d7 {-0.07} 11% ( 179 games) scoring 34% => 40 Pts (0.38*34+0.38*48+0.23*34) Rf8e8 {-0.07} 4% ( 72 games) scoring 48% => 0 Pts Be6 {-0.13} 4% ( 65 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts a5 {-0.23} 2% ( 28 games) scoring 34% => 0 Pts Qd8d7 {-0.08} 1% ( 10 games) scoring 55% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.690 9. ... h7h6 d4 {0.16} 100% ( 182 games) scoring 55% => 55 Pts (0.38*55+0.38*54+0.23*55) 06:52:46.750 10. ... d2d4 Rf8e8 {-0.21} 100% ( 192 games) scoring 46% => 45 Pts (0.38*46+0.38*45+0.23*46) 06:52:46.830 10. ... f8e8 Nb1d2 {0.08} 84% ( 161 games) scoring 55% => 54 Pts (0.38*55+0.38*52+0.23*55) Be3 {0.02} 9% ( 17 games) scoring 59% => 0 Pts a3 {0.09} 5% ( 10 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts a4 {0.21} 2% ( 4 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.910 11. ... b1d2 Bf8 {-0.34} 96% ( 160 games) scoring 45% => 44 Pts (0.38*45+0.38*42+0.23*45) Bb7 {-0.19} 4% ( 6 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:46.970 11. ... e7f8 Nd2f1 {0.19} 80% ( 125 games) scoring 54% => 54 Pts (0.38*54+0.38*55+0.23*54) Bc2 {0.03} 10% ( 15 games) scoring 63% => 0 Pts a3 {0.11} 8% ( 13 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts d5 {0.34} 3% ( 4 games) scoring 63% => 0 Pts 06:52:47.040 12. ... d2f1 Bd7 {-0.29} 56% ( 69 games) scoring 49% => 47 Pts (0.38*49+0.38*43+0.23*49) Bb7 {-0.19} 44% ( 54 games) scoring 43% => 44 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*45+0.23*43) 06:52:47.120 12. ... c8b7 Nf1g3 {0.12} 100% ( 54 games) scoring 57% => 56 Pts (0.38*57+0.38*53+0.23*57) 06:52:47.201 13. ... f1g3 Nc6a5 {-0.12} 92% ( 48 games) scoring 43% => 44 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*47+0.23*43) g6 {-0.78} 8% ( 4 games) scoring 63% => 0 Pts 06:52:47.271 13. ... c6a5 Bc2 {0.12} 100% ( 48 games) scoring 57% => 56 Pts (0.38*57+0.38*53+0.23*57) 06:52:47.371 14. ... b3c2 Na5c4 {-0.29} 91% ( 43 games) scoring 43% => 43 Pts (0.38*43+0.38*43+0.23*43) g6 {-0.35} 9% ( 4 games) scoring 50% => 0 Pts 06:52:47.431 14. ... a5c4 Bd3 {0.2} 14% ( 6 games) scoring 75% => 67 Pts (0.38*75+0.38*55+0.23*75) b3 {0.25} 53% ( 23 games) scoring 59% => 58 Pts (0.38*59+0.38*56+0.23*59) a4 {0.18} 33% ( 14 games) scoring 46% => 50 Pts (0.38*46+0.38*55+0.23*46) 06:52:47.511 15. ... c2d3 Nc4b6 {-0.2} 100% ( 6 games) scoring 25% => 33 Pts (0.38*25+0.38*45+0.23*25) 06:52:47.581 Next move will be first move out of book : using twice as much time. 06:52:47.581 113.3 s remaining for 26 moves => 8.72 s for choosing the next move 06:52:47.581 r2qrbk1/1bp2pp1/p2p1n1p/1p2p3/2nPP3/2PB1NNP/PP3PP1/R1BQR1K1 b - - 06:52:47.621 50Move in 90 half-moves,SIZE_HT:128,phase:100%,noise:6,Playing:COMPUTER,GUI:WINBOARD,Level:40 2 0,TimeConsumed:5.6%,Hash Age:1, 06:52:47.631 <time 11780 06:52:47.651 <otim 11630 06:52:47.651 <e7e5 06:52:47.651 Illegal move (e7e5) 06:52:47.651 <result 0-1 {Forfeit due to illegal move} >time:0.07s, nodes:1911, 27 Knps, evals:931 (48.7%) >HT Fill:0.0006%, HT Hit:1.1%, HT Cutoff:0.0%, HP Hit:79.2%, HK Hit:78.8% >FH: 86.2% >Extensions: 0.6% (recapt:100.0%; ) 'Pharaon 3.5.1' - 'Pharaon_33' 0-1 move score depth time move score depth time 1. e4 0 0 0.0 e5 0 0 1.0 2. Nf3 0 0 0.9 Nc6 0 0 0.9 3. Bb5 0 0 0.4 a6 0 0 0.4 4. Ba4 0 0 0.5 Nf6 0 0 0.6 5. O-O 0 0 0.1 Be7 0 0 0.2 6. Re1 0 0 0.1 b5 0 0 0.1 7. Bb3 0 0 0.1 O-O 0 0 0.1 8. c3 0 0 0.1 d6 0 0 0.1 9. h3 0 0 0.1 h6 0 0 0.1 10. d4 0 0 0.1 Re8 0 0 0.1 11. Nbd2 0 0 0.1 Bf8 0 0 0.1 12. Nf1 0 0 0.1 Bb7 0 0 0.1 13. Ng3 0 0 0.1 Na5 0 0 0.1 14. Bc2 0 0 0.1 Nc4 0 0 0.1 15. Bd3 0 0 0.1 06:52:48.713 Updating 'z_book.bin' : 15 changes 06:52:48.713 <force 06:52:48.713 <ping 4 06:52:48.713 pong 4 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.713 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:52:48.723 <undo 06:55:04.708 <quit 06:55:04.708 Leaving the program

Code: Select all: Pharaon 3.3 on a Intel 651Mhz with 384MB of RAM By Franck ZIBI (fzibi@yahoo.com). Application name : c:\WB\All\Pharaon_33\Pharaon_33.exe For the last versions, visit: http://www.fzibi.com/pharaon.htm 06:52:39.580 The File 'z_learn.epd' can't be opened 06:52:43.015 Found TableBase Files, up to 5 men 06:52:43.075 HashTables set to 128 MB (8388611 entries) 06:52:43.075 Null Move: USE_NULL_MOVE;USE_ZUGZWANG_HEURISTIC;MATE_THREAT; 06:52:43.075 Learning : ENABLE_BLUNDER_LEARNING;ENABLE_BOOK_LEARNING; 06:52:43.075 96237 entries found in the Opening Book (z_book.bin) 06:52:43.196 <xboard 06:52:43.216 <protover 2 06:52:43.216 feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.3" variants="normal" colors=1 ics=1 name=1 done=1 06:52:43.236 <new 06:52:43.276 Loading style book 'z_style.txt'... 06:52:43.366 Done : 0 lines and 0 distinct moves found in 'z_style.txt' 06:52:43.366 <random 06:52:43.366 <level 40 2 0 06:52:43.366 <post 06:52:43.366 <hard 06:52:43.366 Enable Pondering 06:52:43.366 <easy 06:52:43.366 Disable Pondering 06:52:43.366 <force 06:52:43.366 <computer 06:52:43.376 <time 12000 06:52:43.376 <otim 11780 06:52:43.376 <e2e4 06:52:43.386 <black 06:52:43.386 <go e5 {-0.15} 24% ( 8207 games) scoring 44% => 45 Pts e6 {-0.29} 12% ( 4242 games) scoring 45% => 44 Pts c5 {-0.43} 46% ( 15686 games) scoring 45% => 42 Pts c6 {-0.57} 8% ( 2667 games) scoring 44% => 0 Pts d6 {-0.4} 4% ( 1277 games) scoring 41% => 0 Pts g6 {-0.47} 2% ( 799 games) scoring 42% => 0 Pts Ng8f6 {-0.41} 2% ( 592 games) scoring 41% => 0 Pts d5 {-0.41} 1% ( 314 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts Nb8c6 {-0.32} 0% ( 129 games) scoring 46% => 0 Pts b6 {-0.54} 0% ( 28 games) scoring 43% => 0 Pts a6 {-0.59} 0% ( 3 games) scoring 17% => 0 Pts 06:52:44.818 1. ... e7e5 06:52:44.918 <accepted ping 06:52:44.918 <accepted setboard 06:52:44.918 <accepted playother 06:52:44.918 <accepted san 06:52:44.918 <accepted usermove 06:52:44.918 <accepted time 06:52:44.918 <accepted draw 06:52:44.918 <accepted sigint 06:52:44.918 <accepted sigterm 06:52:44.918 <accepted reuse 06:52:44.918 <accepted analyze 06:52:44.918 <accepted myname 06:52:44.918 <accepted variants 06:52:44.928 <accepted colors 06:52:44.928 <accepted ics 06:52:44.928 <accepted name 06:52:44.928 <accepted done 06:52:45.038 <result 0-1 {Forfeit due to illegal move} '' - 'Pharaon 3.3' 0-1 move score depth time move score depth time 1. e4 0 0 0.0 e5 0 0 1.4 06:52:45.279 <force 06:52:45.289 <ping 1 06:52:45.289 pong 1 06:55:05.280 <quit 06:55:05.280 Leaving the program

by **Guenther Simon** » 28 Oct 2006, 08:14

P.S. I forgot to mention you should edit the header
to something like the one above to give Franck the chance
to read this thread(or write him an email), because
the title of the first message is very unspecific.

Regards,
Guenther

by **Robert Allgeuer** » 28 Oct 2006, 10:36

Yes, the problem only manifests itself in games against another Pharaon version, and I have obeserved this already I think with Pharaon 3.1 against 3.3.
As you say, my installations and files are completely seperate. First I thought that the problem might be related with the identical executable name "pharaon.exe", but also renaming the 3.5.1 executable to pharaon351.exe does not change the behaviour.

Robert

by **Sven Schüle** » 28 Oct 2006, 21:54

Hi,

obviously Pharaon switches into a selfplay mode if it receives a WB command line starting with "name Pharaon". Pharaon plays moves for both sides in this mode and consequently does not recognize that there is an opponent.

I have tried Pharaon 3.5.1 in console mode. Typing nothing else but "name Pharaon" and then "go" confirms this. So the reported problem is not a WinBoard problem.

Sven

by **Robert Allgeuer** » 28 Oct 2006, 22:54

Just to understand:
is this name command a winboard standard command?
If I understand correctly it is used to send the opponent´s name to an engine, which in this case also starts with "Pharaon", which causes the effect you have identified.
So it is a problem in Pharaon, but as a workaround is there a possibility to turn off this name feature in Winboard? I think an engine does not need the opponent´s name anyway.

Robert

by **Sven Schüle** » 29 Oct 2006, 22:30

Hi Robert,

the engine itself sends "name=1" within its feature string to tell WinBoard that it wants to receive the opponent's name. If possible, WinBoard uses the value that the opponent sends with the "myname" command.

Without this setting, WinBoard would by default only send "name xxx" when the engine plays on a chess server (see Tim Mann's engine interface page).

I don't know whether it is possible to configure this behaviour from outside; probably it's not. Maybe you should ask the author for a patch.

Sven

by **Robert Allgeuer** » 29 Oct 2006, 23:40

Thanks for the explanations.
I hope that Franck reads this and possibly looks into the problem.

Robert

by **Tony Thomas** » 31 Oct 2006, 06:43

Can you change this behaviour by naming one of the .exe files as Zchess?

by **Robert Allgeuer** » 31 Oct 2006, 08:17

Well, I have not tried this one, although I have renamed pharaon.exe to pharaon351.exe in order to have different executable names.
As far as I understood Sven tried it on the command line (with no computer opponent) and the offending command is this "name Pharaon 3.5.1" it receives. And this cannot be changed AFAI; one possible route would be to patch the string "Pharaon" inside the executable of one of the two with a hex-editor, but I did not really want to go down that route.

Robert

by **Guenther Simon** » 31 Oct 2006, 09:02

Robert Allgeuer wrote:Well, I have not tried this one, although I have renamed pharaon.exe to pharaon351.exe in order to have different executable names.
As far as I understood Sven tried it on the command line (with no computer opponent) and the offending command is this "name Pharaon 3.5.1" it receives. And this cannot be changed AFAI; one possible route would be to patch the string "Pharaon" inside the executable of one of the two with a hex-editor, but I did not really want to go down that route.

Robert

Robert, if you really cannot wait for a patch from Franck, there
is another workaround for the problem.
Use Inbetween and replace the output string 'name=1' sent
by Pharaon with 'name=0'.

Regards,
Guenther

Inbetween ini example for Pharaon 3.3
(adapt names and debug showing to your taste)

Code: Select all: [InBetween] Debug := 3 Log := Pharaon_33.log CommandLine := Pharaon33.exe [Client2Server] ; Set transalation of commands from the client here ; format word := translation [Server2Client] ; Set transalation of commands from the server here ; format word := translation name=1 := name=0

I already tested this approach, here is the debug:
(Edited: You see in my test I have changed the name feature
output for _both_ Pharaon versions, which is probably not
necessary for you, except you wanna play more matches
between several versions of Pharaon.)

Code: Select all: recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal WinBoard 4.2.7 + Pharaon_351 Reset(1, 0) from gameMode 0 recognized 'normal' (-1) as variant normal GameEnds(0, (null), 2) StartChildProcess (dir="c:\WB\All\Pharaon_351") Pharaon_351 1643 >first : xboard protover 2 5558 <first : feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.5.1" variants="normal,fischerandom" colors=1 ics=1 name=0 done=1 5568 >first : accepted ping 5568 >first : accepted setboard 5568 >first : accepted playother 5568 >first : accepted san 5568 >first : accepted usermove 5568 >first : accepted time 5568 >first : accepted draw 5568 >first : accepted sigint 5568 >first : accepted sigterm 5568 >first : accepted reuse 5578 >first : accepted analyze 5578 >first : accepted myname 5578 >first : accepted variants 5578 >first : accepted colors 5578 >first : accepted ics 5578 >first : accepted name 5578 >first : accepted done 5588 >first : new random 5588 >first : ics - 5588 >first : level 40 2 0 5588 >first : post 5588 >first : hard 5588 >first : easy 5588 >first : ping 1 5688 <first : pong 1 13960 >first : force StartChildProcess (dir="c:\WB\All\Pharaon_33") Pharaon_33 14581 >second: xboard protover 2 16734 <second: feature ping=1 setboard=1 playother=0 san=0 usermove=0 time=1 draw=1 sigint=1 sigterm=1 reuse=1 analyze=1 myname="Pharaon 3.3" variants="normal" colors=1 ics=1 name=0 done=1 16744 >second: accepted ping 16744 >second: accepted setboard 16744 >second: accepted playother 16744 >second: accepted san 16744 >second: accepted usermove 16744 >second: accepted time 16744 >second: accepted draw 16744 >second: accepted sigint 16744 >second: accepted sigterm 16744 >second: accepted reuse 16754 >second: accepted analyze 16754 >second: accepted myname 16754 >second: accepted variants 16754 >second: accepted colors 16754 >second: accepted ics 16754 >second: accepted name 16754 >second: accepted done 16764 >second: new random 16764 >second: ics - 16764 >second: level 40 2 0 16764 >second: post 16764 >second: hard 16764 >second: easy 16764 >second: ping 1 16764 >second: force 16774 >first : computer 16774 >second: computer 16774 >first : black 16774 >first : time 12000 16774 >first : otim 12000 16774 >first : white 16774 >first : go 16874 <second: pong 1 17485 <first : 1. ... c2c4 17485 >second: time 12000 17485 >second: otim 11928 17485 >second: c2c4 17495 >second: black 17495 >second: go 18136 <second: 1. ... g8f6 Interrupting first 18136 >first : time 11928 18136 >first : otim 11934 18136 >first : g8f6 18847 <first : 2. ... g1f3 Interrupting second 18847 >second: time 11934 18847 >second: otim 11857 18847 >second: g1f3 19258 <second: 2. ... e7e6 Interrupting first 19258 >first : time 11857 19258 >first : otim 11893 19258 >first : e7e6 19849 <first : 3. ... b1c3 Interrupting second 19849 >second: time 11893 19849 >second: otim 11798 19849 >second: b1c3 20640 <second: 3. ... d7d5 Interrupting first 20640 >first : time 11798 20650 >first : otim 11814 20650 >first : d7d5 21161 <first : 4. ... d2d4 Interrupting second 21161 >second: time 11814 21161 >second: otim 11746 21171 >second: d2d4 21631 <second: 4. ... f8e7 Interrupting first 21641 >first : time 11746 21641 >first : otim 11767 21641 >first : f8e7 22192 <first : 5. ... c1f4 Interrupting second 22192 >second: time 11767 22192 >second: otim 11690 22192 >second: c1f4 22723 <second: 5. ... e8g8 Interrupting first 22723 >first : time 11690 22733 >first : otim 11714 22733 >first : e8g8 23374 <first : 6. ... e2e3 Interrupting second 23374 >second: time 11714 23374 >second: otim 11625 23384 >second: e2e3 23814 <second: 6. ... c7c5 Interrupting first 23814 >first : time 11625 23814 >first : otim 11670 23814 >first : c7c5 24395 <first : 7. ... d4c5 Interrupting second 24395 >second: time 11670 24395 >second: otim 11567 24405 >second: d4c5 24976 <second: 7. ... e7c5 Interrupting first 24976 >first : time 11567 24976 >first : otim 11612 24976 >first : e7c5 25607 <first : 8. ... d1c2 Interrupting second 25617 >second: time 11612 25617 >second: otim 11503 25617 >second: d1c2 26018 <second: 8. ... b8c6 Interrupting first 26028 >first : time 11503 26028 >first : otim 11571 26028 >first : b8c6 26618 <first : 9. ... a2a3 Interrupting second 26629 >second: time 11571 26629 >second: otim 11443 26629 >second: a2a3 27059 <second: 9. ... d8a5 Interrupting first 27059 >first : time 11443 27059 >first : otim 11528 27069 >first : d8a5 27570 <first : 10. ... e1c1 Interrupting second 27570 >second: time 11528 27580 >second: otim 11392 27580 >second: e1c1 28141 <second: 10. ... c8d7 Interrupting first 28151 >first : time 11392 28151 >first : otim 11471 28151 >first : c8d7 28571 <first : 11. ... c1b1 Interrupting second 28581 >second: time 11471 28581 >second: otim 11348 28581 >second: c1b1 31105 <second: 6. -21 1 99981 dxc4 Ne4 Nd5 Neg5 f5 Bxc4 Nxf4 32867 <second: 6-> -21 3 243601 dxc4 Ne4 Nd5 Neg5 f5 Bxc4 Nxf4 34089 <second: 7. -35 4 344474 dxc4 Ne4 Rfd8 Nxf6+ gxf6 Bxc4 Qb6 Bd6 f5 Bxc5 Qxc5 35792 <second: 7. -35 6 471602 Be7! 38395 <second: 7. -23 9 649027 Be7 cxd5 exd5 Ng5 g6 Be2 Qc5 Rhe1 38425 <second: 7-> -23 9 649028 Be7 cxd5 exd5 Ng5 g6 Be2 Qc5 Rhe1 38425 <second: 11. ... c5e7 Interrupting first 38435 >first : time 11348 38435 >first : otim 10485 38435 >first : c5e7 41270 <first : 6. 25 2 155962 Bd3 dxc4 Bxh7+ Nxh7 Rxd7 Qb6 Bc7 Qb3 Qxb3 cxb3 43032 <first : 6-> 25 4 306264 Bd3 dxc4 Bxh7+ Nxh7 Rxd7 Qb6 Bc7 Qb3 Qxb3 cxb3 45436 <first : 7. 11 6 494092 Bd3 Rac8 cxd5 exd5 Ng5 h6 Nh7 Rfe8 Nxf6+ Bxf6 46757 <first : 7-> 11 8 588956 Bd3 Rac8 cxd5 exd5 Ng5 h6 Nh7 Rfe8 Nxf6+ Bxf6 46767 <first : 12. ... f1d3

by **Sven Schüle** » 31 Oct 2006, 09:37

Guenther Simon wrote:You see in my test I have changed the name feature output for _both_ Pharaon versions, which is probably not necessary for you, except you wanna play more matches between several versions of Pharaon.)

Hi Guenther,

if the change is not done for both versions then the unchanged one will still switch into selfplay mode because WinBoard will still send "name xxx" to it as requested. So I think that changing both is required.

Please note also that patching the executable this way only works "by accident", because the string "name=1" occurs exactly once in the whole exe. I guess you checked this before

Sven

by **Guenther Simon** » 31 Oct 2006, 10:11

Sven Schüle wrote:
Guenther Simon wrote:You see in my test I have changed the name feature output for _both_ Pharaon versions, which is probably not necessary for you, except you wanna play more matches between several versions of Pharaon.)

Hi Guenther,

if the change is not done for both versions then the unchanged one will still switch into selfplay mode because WinBoard will still send "name xxx" to it as requested. So I think that changing both is required.

Please note also that patching the executable this way only works "by accident", because the string "name=1" occurs exactly once in the whole exe. I guess you checked this before

Sven

Sven, I guess the second part is for Robert, because I have
not patched the exe.
The first part though seems true, that's probably why I intuitively
had changed both output streams ;-)

Regards,
Guenther

by **Robert Allgeuer** » 31 Oct 2006, 17:35

I guess you could patch two ways, either the "name=1" string to "name=0" or alternatively the name-string of the engine that it sends to Winboard. Then you would have to patch both engines to return a different name than "Pharaon x.x.x".

The inbetween solution is of course the cleanest one.

I still wonder whether this is an intended (hidden) feature or an obscure bug.

Thanks
Robert

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