New engine

[Ciro Vignotto]

Hi all,
a new italian engine is out: Brama
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/biagiopas/brama/brama.htm
Greetings, Ciro

[Pallav Nawani]

But why the name brama? Why do people have to use the name of gods from Hindu Pantheon? They are still worshipped today, they are not forgotten greek or viking gods!

Thankfully, 'brama' spelling is incorrect.

[Reinhard Scharnagl]

Hi pallavnawani,

Why do people have to use the name of gods from Hindu Pantheon

I hope the name "Smirf" is not reserved for something similar ...

Reinhard.

[Pallav Nawani]

Hi pallavnawani,

Why do people have to use the name of gods from Hindu Pantheon

I hope the name "Smirf" is not reserved for something similar ...

Reinhard.

Nope, it isn't.

If people do feel like using the name of god which are actually worshipped today they should probably stick to their own religion...

[Ciro Vignotto]

But why the name brama? Why do people have to use the name of gods from Hindu Pantheon? They are still worshipped today, they are not forgotten greek or viking gods!

Thankfully, 'brama' spelling is incorrect.

from his site:
"Biagio Rea l'Apatico Motore di gioco per scacchi Amatoriale"
sounds like:
"from Biagio Rea the Apathetic amateur chess engine"
Greetings, Ciro

[Peter Fendrich]

Ciro,
what does this mean?
Di sacro ci ha solo l'assonanza del nome con Brahma il dio Ind?.

It's from the Brama homepage.
I don't understand Italian good enough but isn't it something about that the name is not the same but just sounds like Brahma?

Maybe Pallav over reacted this time?

/Peter

[Ciro Vignotto]

Ciro,
what does this mean?
Di sacro ci ha solo l'assonanza del nome con Brahma il dio Ind?.

It's from the Brama homepage.
I don't understand Italian good enough but isn't it something about that the name is not the same but just sounds like Brahma?

Yes, that's true

Maybe Pallav over reacted this time?

maybe

Greetings, Ciro

[Alessandro Scotti]

Actually, "brama" is also an italian word that means "desire" or "greed".

[Pallav Nawani]

Hi,

I am happy to be proven wrong , but there are two things that made me think otherwise.

(a) This is the google translation which I checked _before posting here_.

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This translation made me think that he is referring to the Indian ( Ind?) god.

(b) The image in the background is none other than the traditional imagery used for Brahma himself. It is unmistakably Indian, and also note the four heads, only 3 of which are visible.

Best,
Pallav

[José Carlos]

But why the name brama? Why do people have to use the name of gods from Hindu Pantheon? They are still worshipped today, they are not forgotten greek or viking gods!

Thankfully, 'brama' spelling is incorrect.

I don't think anyone chooses a name with the idea to offend other people. So if something looks offensive, we'd better think first "he didn't mean to offend".
Religion is something very personal and deep for some people, and looks like a circus for others (like me) who don't believe in gods. I chose the name Averno (catholic hell) and Anubis (egiptian god for death) because I liked the words. Nothing more. My neibourgh and friend is a very catholic person, and I deeply respect his beliefs, but we often talk about religion, I often express my point of view of Christ being a lunatic, and he doesn't feel offended. He just understands that what is important for him, is irrelevant for me. We dicuss and never agree, but it's always fun.
So in summary, don't get upset by people choosing and indian god name for a program. He's not trying to offend.

[Peter Fendrich]

I don't think anyone chooses a name with the idea to offend other people.

Probably not but I think that ignorance often creates misunderstanding. We, in Europe, often use Indian Gods to symbolise India and Indian culture. Almost everyone immediately associates them to India but almost nobody knows anything about them. These symbols are often used compeltely misleading and detached from the context. I'm not surprised if some Indian people feel offended by this. Even if my religous belief is close to your I think that I must show respect to other peoples belief and in return I expect other people to respect mine.

/Peter

[Anthony Cozzie]

"Of sacred the God Ind? has only the assonance to us of the name with Brahma. "

Assonance means same sound, so it seems like the meaning is "the only resemblance Brama has to the Hindu god is the pronunciation".

anthony

[David Weller]

Hi Carlos,

As a simple clarification of terms:

Christ is a title.

[And, in fact, 'Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:' 1John 5:1a]

[José Carlos]

Hi Carlos,

As a simple clarification of terms:

Christ is a title.

[And, in fact, 'Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:' 1John 5:1a]

Thanks for clarifying. I knew it, but I make this mistake very often.
Just to make myself more clear: I deeply respect everyone's beliefs. What really matters IMO is what one has inside. Symbols only represent ideas or feelings, and are only meaningful to the believer. Everyone can have his own symbols, and one can't know about all of them, so when I use a name which doesn't mean anything to me, I don't intend to refer to a symbolized idea, but just to the surface, to what I see.
For some reason, my english is rather dense today. Sorry for that

[David Weller]

Hi Jose',

Your english is fine.

Growing up in America, I learned and used all sorts of slang terms with various connotations. Later, after becoming a Christian, I also became friends with a Jew. On more than one occasion, he pointed out that what I thought were just slang terms with little meaning, were actually very explicit vulgarities!

He didnt take offense, he knew I had no idea what I was saying. But I soon learned not to use them anymore.

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Q. Would it be accurate to say, that much of what is called religion today, is more like superstition, in your view?

[José Carlos]

Q. Would it be accurate to say, that much of what is called religion today, is more like superstition, in your view?

Hi David,
This is getting too off topic, and I'd like to ask other people reading not to enter a religious debate.
To answer your question, in my view, religion accomplishes two functions:
1- it covers the grey area where science hasn't got yet: from the time of the romans, where storm happend because the gods were angry, to nowadays, religion cover a smaller area, as science advances.
2- it gives a meaning to life and make people stronger and (hopefully) better persons. Religion is, in this sense, a big need for humans.