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Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Tord Romstad » 13 Jan 2006, 23:30

There are few things which are more embarassing than working one and a half year on a program before finally releasing a 1.0 version, and then discover two elementary bugs less than 24 hours after the release. Sad to say, this is exactly what has happened with Glaurung 1.0. My excuse is that I really wanted to have the new version ready in time for the 12th edition of WBEC.

I now have a new version, 1.0.1, which fixes the following two bugs:
  • The default value of the "Static pruning depth" parameter is now 2, like it was supposed to be.
  • Glaurung now always uses a symmetric evaluation in analysis mode. This was also supposed to work in 1.0, but it didn't.

As an extra bonus, there is also one added future: A very simple form of positional learning (disabled by default). The point of this feature is not to increase the playing strength. Indeed, I think it has no measurable effect at all when playing games. The point is that it could be useful when using the program for interactive analysis. The feature is not very thoroughly tested, and I am not yet sure how well it works.

Those of you who have started running tests with Glaurung 1.0, don't bother to start all over (even if you used Static pruning depth = 1). Just replace 1.0 with 1.0.1, and let 1.0.1 keep the results and ratings of 1.0.

Source code and binaries for Linux and OS X can be found on my home page. A Windows binary will be added later.

I apologise for the inconvenience, and I hope that 1.0.1 will be the last Glaurung version for a while.

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Dann Corbit » 13 Jan 2006, 23:57

I am doing a profile now, for a PGO binary.
Should be ready in a few hours.
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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Tord Romstad » 14 Jan 2006, 13:24

Hi all,

As some of you have probably noticed, a Windows binary (compiled by Dann Corbit) of Glaurung 1.0.1 has been available on my site since this morning. Those of you who wants to have the fastest possible executable may want to download again now: I have now replaced Dann's binary by one by Bryan Hoffman, which based on prior experience is likely to be a tiny bit faster. The Windows download now also contains two different 64-bit versions (Glaurung-AMD64.exe and Glaurung-EM64T.exe, I'm not sure what the difference is).

A big thanks to Dann and Bryan for their help!

Download from http://www.glaurungchess.com

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Bryan Hofmann » 14 Jan 2006, 14:04

Tord Romstad wrote:Hi all,

The Windows download now also contains two different 64-bit versions (Glaurung-AMD64.exe and Glaurung-EM64T.exe, I'm not sure what the difference is).

Tord


The AMD64 is optimized for 64bit AMD systems and the EM64T is the 64bit Intel optimized compile. For the most part in my testing the compile for your platform will be a bit faster then the other.


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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Graham Banks » 14 Jan 2006, 19:45

Thanks Tord for Glaurung 1.01.

I look forward to trying out both Glaurung 1.01 and Naum 1.9 :D

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Mihail Croitor » 14 Jan 2006, 19:50

hi for all,
i have a little question.
i'm a programmist but i am so young and not experienced - i compile Glaurung with gcc + full optimization and optainan exe file smaller and, i think, faster, than Corbit's or Abblet's compilations. Is it true?!
best regards,
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some results

Postby Mihail Croitor » 14 Jan 2006, 19:59

under Arena:
Engine Score Gl
1: Glaurung 1.0 22-0/32 ????????
2: Fruit 2.2.1 5-0/8 ==011011
3: Glaurung Mainz 2-5/8 0011=000
4: Jonny 2.83 2-0/8 01100000
5: Crafty v20.0 BH 0-5/8 000=0000

32 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Glaurung_test
Site/ Country: LIUDA, Russia
Level: Blitz 2/2
Hardware: Intel 500 MHz ñ 128 MB ïàìÿòè
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 4 (Build 2195)
PGN-File: I:\chess\Arena\Tournaments\Glaurung_test.pgn
Website:
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under Shredder Classic:
glaurung-test

Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Gandalf 6.0 2.0 - 2.0 50.00%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Glaurung Mainz 2.0 - 2.0 50.00%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Ktulu 7.5 3.0 - 1.0 75.00%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Ruffian 2.1.0 2.5 - 1.5 62.50%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Rybka WinFinder 1.0 32-bit 1.5 - 2.5 37.50%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Shredder 9.1 UCI 0.5 - 3.5 12.50%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Shredder Classic 1.3 3.0 - 1.0 75.00%
Glaurung 1.0 beta 1 - Spike 1.0a Mainz 2.0 - 2.0 50.00%
16.5 - 15.5 51.56%

was played very nice game with Fruit:
[Event "Glaurung_test"]
[Site "LIUDA"]
[Date "2006.01.13"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Glaurung 1.0"]
[Black "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E38"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indian"]
[Termination "normal"]
[Time "22:22:40"]
[Variation "Classical, 4...c5 5.dxc5 Bxc5 6.Nf3"]
[WhiteType "program"]

1.d4 Nf6 {(Ng8f6 Ng1f3 d7d5 Nb1c3 Nb8c6 e2e3 e7e6 Bf1d3 Bf8d6
00 00) .0.20/11 6} 2.c4 e6 {(e7e6 Ng1f3 Bf8b4+ Bc1d2 Nb8c6 Nb1c3
00 a2a3 Bb4e7 Bd2f4 d7d5) +0.11/10 4} 3.Nc3 Bb4 {(Bf8b4 Ng1f3
00 a2a3 Bb4xc3+ b2xc3 Nb8c6 Qd1d3 d7d5 Nf3g5 g7g6 c4xd5 e6xd5)
+0.16/10 3} 4.Qc2 c5 {(c7c5 a2a3 Bb4xc3+ b2xc3 Qd8a5 Ng1f3 Nb8c6
Bc1d2 00 h2h4 d7d6 h4h5) +0.22/10 7} 5.dxc5 Bxc5 {(Bb4xc5 Bc1f4
Nb8c6 Ng1f3 Nf6g4 e2e3 Nc6b4 Qc2e4 00) +0.31/9 6} 6.Nf3 Nc6 {(Nb8c6
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e2e3 Rf8e8 Bh4xf6 Qd8xf6 Bf1d3 Nc6b4 Qc2d2 d7d5 00) +0.39/9 7} 9.e3 d6
{(d7d6 Bf1e2 Rf8e8 00 g7g5 Bh4g3 Nf6h5 Be2d3 Nh5xg3 h2xg3) +0.09/9
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Bh4xg5 Nc6e5 Bd3h7+ Kg8h8 b2b4 Bc5a7 Nc3e4 Ne5g4 Ne4xd6) +1.62/11
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c4c5 Bc8d7) .0.93/8 3} 14.Bxg5 {(Bh4xg5 Nc6e5 Bd3h7+ Kg8h8 Nc3e4
Ne5d7 b2b4 Bc5a7 Ne4xd6 Rf8d8 c4c5) +1.71/10 4} Ne5 {(Nc6e5 b2b4
Bc5b6 Bd3h7+ Kg8g7 Nc3e4 Ne5g4 Ne4xd6 Rf8h8 c4c5 Rh8xh7 c5xb6)
.0.92/9 2} 15.Bh7 {(Bd3h7+ Kg8h8 Nc3e4 Ne5d7 b2b4 Bc5a7 Ne4xd6
Nd7e5 c4c5 Ne5g6 Bh7xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6) +1.93/11 5} Kg7 {(Kg8g7
Nc3e4 Ne5d7 b2b4 Rf8h8 b4xc5 Rh8xh7 c5xd6 Qe7d8 Qc2c3) .1.11/10
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+1.71/8 5} Rh8 {(Rf8h8 b4xc5 Rh8xh7 Nc3e4 Ne5g4 c5xd6 Qe7d8 Qc2c3
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Ne4xf6 Ng4xf6 c4c5) +1.54/9 5} Rxh7 {(Rh8xh7 Nc3e4 Ne5g4 c5xd6
Qe7d8 Ne4xf6 Ng4xf6 00 Bc8d7) .0.91/8 1} 18.Ne4 {(Nc3e4 Ne5g4
c5xd6 Qe7d8 Ne4xf6 Ng4xf6 Bg5xf6+ Qd8xf6 d6d7 Rh7h8 d7xc8Q Ra8xc8)
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d6d7 Bc8xd7 Rd1xd7 Qf6a1+ Rd7d1 Qa1xa3 00 Ra8g8) .1.36/9 2} 19.Rxd6 {(Rd1xd6
Rh7h5 Qc2d1 Rh5h8 Qd1xg4 Nf6xg4 Bg5xe7 Rh8xh2 Rh1xh2 Ng4xh2)
+1.96/9 4} Rh5 {(Rh7h5 h2h4 a6a5 Ne4g3 Qe7c7 Bg5xf6+ Ng4xf6 Ng3xh5+
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Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 Ke1f2) .2.63/9 16} 21.f3 {(f2f3 Ng4e5 h4h5 Bc8d7
Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 Ne4xf6 Qe7xf6 f3f4 Ra8d8 f4xe5 Qf6xe5) +3.95/10
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Ne4xf6 Rh6xf6 h5h6+ Kg7g8 Qc2b2 Rf6xh6 Bg5xe7 Rh6xh1+ Ke1f2 Ne5c6
Be7f6) .4.00/10 3} 23.Rd2 {(Rd6d2 Nf6xe4 Bg5xe7 Ne4xd2 Ke1xd2
Kg7h8) +4.31/6 3} Ra8 {(Ra7a8 Ne4xf6 Rh6xf6 h5h6+ Kg7g8 Qc2b2
Rf6xh6 Bg5xe7 Rh6xh1+ Ke1f2 Ne5c6 Be7d6 Kg8h7) .4.28/10 13} 24.Qb2 {(Qc2b2
Ne5xc4 Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 Ne4xf6 Nc4xb2 Nf6g8+ Kh6g7 Ng8xe7 Nb2c4)
+4.26/8 3} Ned7 {(Ne5d7 g2g4 e6e5 Rd2xd7 Bc8xd7 Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6
g4g5+ Kh6h7 Ne4xf6+ Kh7h8 Qb2xb7 Ra8d8 c5c6) .4.93/10 6} 25.g4 {(g2g4
e6e5 Rd2xd7 Bc8xd7 Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 g4g5+ Kh6h7 Qb2xb7 Ra8d8 Ne4xf6+
Kh7h8 Nf6xd7 Rd8xd7) +5.15/9 3} e5 {(e6e5 Rd2xd7 Qe7xd7 Bg5xh6+
Kg7xh6 Qb2xe5 Kh6g7 Qe5xf6+ Kg7f8 Qf6h6+ Kf8e7 Qh6d6+ Ke7d8 h5h6)
.5.52/8 2} 26.Rxd7 {(Rd2xd7 Bc8xd7 Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 g4g5+ Kh6h7
Ne4xf6+ Kh7g7 h5h6+ Kg7h8 Nf6xd7 Qe7xd7 Qb2xe5+ f7f6 Qe5xf6+
Kh8h7) +6.21/9 3} Bxd7 {(Bc8xd7 Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 g4g5+ Kh6h7 Ne4xf6+
Kh7g7 h5h6+ Kg7g6 Qb2xb7 Qe7xc5 Nf6xd7 Qc5xe3+ Ke1d1 Qe3d4+ Kd1e1)
.6.23/8 2} 27.Bxh6 {(Bg5xh6+ Kg7xh6 g4g5+ Kh6h7 Ne4xf6+ Kh7g7
h5h6+ Kg7g6 Qb2c2+ e5e4 Qc2h2 Bd7h3 Qh2xh3 Kg6xg5 Nf6xe4+ Kg5g6)
+7.28/10 4} Kxh6 {(Kg7xh6 g4g5+ Kh6h7 Ne4xf6+ Kh7g7 h5h6+ Kg7g6
Qb2xb7 Qe7xc5 Nf6xd7 Qc5xe3+ Ke1d1 Qe3d4+ Kd1e1 Qd4a1+ Ke1d2
Qa1xh1 Qb7xa8 Kg6xg5 Nd7xe5 Kg5xh6 Qa8xa6+ Kh6g7) .6.01/9 1} 28.g5 {(g4g5+
Kh6h7 Ne4xf6+ Kh7g7 h5h6+ Kg7g6 Qb2c2+ e5e4 Qc2h2 Qe7d8 Qh2h5+
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Ne4xf6+ Kh7g7 h5h6+ Kg7g6 h6h7 Qe7xc5 Ke1f2 Bd7h3 Rh1xh3 Ra8h8
Qb2xb7 Kg6xg5 Qb7xf7 Qc5xa3) .7.30/10 2} 29.Nxf6 {(Ne4xf6+ Kh7g7
h5h6+ Kg7g6 Qb2c2+ e5e4 Qc2h2 Qe7d8 Qh2h5+ Kg6f5 Nf6xd7 Qd8a5+
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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Tord Romstad » 14 Jan 2006, 20:46

Mihail Croitor wrote:hi for all,
i have a little question.
i'm a programmist but i am so young and not experienced - i compile Glaurung with gcc + full optimization and optainan exe file smaller and, i think, faster, than Corbit's or Abblet's compilations. Is it true?!
best regards,
Mike.
PS: Use Dev-CPP for compilations, not tested on bench

Hi Mike,

That your .exe file is smaller is not unexpected. I use GCC myself under Linux and Mac OS X, and the binaries I get are always much smaller than the Windows binaries by Bryan, Dann or Jim. My Linux binary is only about 80 KB big.

That your .exe file is faster is more surprising, and I am not sure I believe it until I see it confirmed by other. Most people claim that executables compiled with GCC are invariably slower than those compiled with the Microsoft or Intel compilers. This is all just based on reports by others, though. Being a Linux and Mac OS X user, I have never had the opportunity to test the differences myself.

Thanks for your test results! Looks remarkably good so far. :D

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Jim Ablett » 15 Jan 2006, 10:45

Hi Tord, Mikhail,

hi for all,
i have a little question.
i'm a programmist but i am so young and not experienced - i compile Glaurung with gcc + full optimization and optainan exe file smaller and, i think, faster, than Corbit's or Abblet's compilations. Is it true?!
best regards,
Mike.
PS: Use Dev-CPP for compilations, not tested on bench


I did a Dev/GCC build just to see how close to my Intel builds I could make it. I inlined a lot of stuff by hand. The fastest build I could make was about 18-20% slower than Dann's or mine.

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Jim Ablett » 15 Jan 2006, 12:38

Here's my Intel 9 compile if you want to compare against Bryan's
build on your system.

http://www.ihud.com/file.php?file=15010 ... -intel.zip

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Glaurung in Italy! ;)

Postby enrico carrisco » 15 Jan 2006, 21:26

Hello Tord.

It looks like Glaurung is ready for Torino in May. Will you be joining? (I assume you are already enrolled in CCT8 for late February's games.)

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Pierre Muzac » 15 Jan 2006, 21:51

Can somebody please send me Dann's Binaries of Glaurung-101.I did not have the chance to download it.The zip file on Tord's homepage have 3 executes in it.I believe the first one is for older CPU and built by Bryan Hoffman as well.I would like to see Dann's built also.can somebody please email it to me by any chance.My email is
boustabac2u@bellsouth.net

I will apreciate it very much.Thank you.

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Re: Glaurung in Italy! ;)

Postby Tord Romstad » 16 Jan 2006, 00:14

enrico carrisco wrote:It looks like Glaurung is ready for Torino in May. Will you be joining?

Hello Enrico,

Thanks for the kind words. :)

From a competitive point of view, you are quite wrong -- Glaurung is nowhere near ready for Torino. It scores about 20% against Hiarcs, for instance. If I get enough time for programming (which is far from certain) I should be able to improve by another 50-100 Elo points before the summer and add SMP support, but even this would not be sufficient to contend for a good position in Torino.

But on the other hand, I am not really interested in the competitive side of computer chess at all. Participating as pure comic relief would be no less fun for me than participating as one of the contenders for first place. The point is to socialise with the other programmers and to meet new and old friends, and from this point of view I am sure I would have a great time in Torino.

Whether I ultimately participate will depend on time and money, not on playing strength. I probably won't know for sure until some time late in the spring.

(I assume you are already enrolled in CCT8 for late February's games.)

Actually I'm not, and I strongly doubt that I will play there. I'm not a big fan of online events, and as a European I find the playing hours rather inconvenient.

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Tord Romstad » 16 Jan 2006, 00:19

Pierre Muzac wrote:Can somebody please send me Dann's Binaries of Glaurung-101.I did not have the chance to download it.The zip file on Tord's homepage have 3 executes in it.I believe the first one is for older CPU and built by Bryan Hoffman as well.I would like to see Dann's built also.can somebody please email it to me by any chance.My email is
boustabac2u@bellsouth.net

I will apreciate it very much.Thank you.

Hi Pierre,

Please check your mailbox. :)

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Re: Glaurung 1.0.1 (sigh)

Postby Pierre Muzac » 16 Jan 2006, 00:50

Thank you very much guy! I got it

My best Regards
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Re: Glaurung in Italy! ;)

Postby enrico carrisco » 16 Jan 2006, 05:42

Hello Enrico,

Thanks for the kind words. :)

From a competitive point of view, you are quite wrong -- Glaurung is nowhere near ready for Torino. It scores about 20% against Hiarcs, for instance. If I get enough time for programming (which is far from certain) I should be able to improve by another 50-100 Elo points before the summer and add SMP support, but even this would not be sufficient to contend for a good position in Torino.

But on the other hand, I am not really interested in the competitive side of computer chess at all. Participating as pure comic relief would be no less fun for me than participating as one of the contenders for first place. The point is to socialise with the other programmers and to meet new and old friends, and from this point of view I am sure I would have a great time in Torino.

Whether I ultimately participate will depend on time and money, not on playing strength. I probably won't know for sure until some time late in the spring.


Yes, I understand. Perhaps you don't have Glaurung where you would like it to be but I think you are being extremely modest with your assessment of where it is at currently. From the results I've seen, Glaurung has the ability to surprise any engine at tournament controls -- and not a shabby blitzer either!

(I assume you are already enrolled in CCT8 for late February's games.)

Actually I'm not, and I strongly doubt that I will play there. I'm not a big fan of online events, and as a European I find the playing hours rather inconvenient.

Tord


Well, I hope you will reconsider and give it a try. The hours shouldn't be horrible for Europe this year -- is Norway close to German time? If so, it shouldn't start later than 3pm and should end by 11pm or midnight.

An operator is also an option. However it's decided, it would be a privilege to see Glaurung play.

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One more reason to compete!! :)

Postby enrico carrisco » 17 Jan 2006, 04:36

Glaurung 1.0.1 used a single CPU P4 3.0GHz laptop.
Deep Shredder 9.12 64-bit used a Quad Opteron 2.2GHz

Look specifically around moves 40-47. :)

:twisted: Tord, you've created a monster! :twisted:

-elc.

[Event "60m + 15s, rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2006.01.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Phlox, Glaurung 1.0.1 jvs"]
[Black "Silvertip, Deep Shredder 9.12 x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B28"]
[WhiteElo "2409"]
[BlackElo "2611"]
[Annotator "l.,enrico"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[EventDate "2006.01.17"]

1. e4 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. c3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. d4 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. e5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bd7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bd3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. cxd4 {
[%eval 21,16] [%emt 0:02:01]} Bb5 {(Pc6) [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Bxb5+ {
[%eval 29,15] [%emt 0:02:16]} axb5 {[%eval 118,17] [%emt 0:00:12]} 9. Nc3 {
[%eval 23,16] [%emt 0:03:20]} Bb4 {(b4) [%eval 102,20] [%emt 0:02:40]} 10. Qd3
{[%eval 53,16] [%emt 0:02:49]} Ne7 {(Db6) [%eval 96,20] [%emt 0:02:15]} 11. O-O
{[%eval 78,16] [%emt 0:01:40]} Nbc6 {(Lxc3) [%eval 89,20] [%emt 0:01:36]} 12.
Nxb5 {[%eval 70,16] [%emt 0:02:26]} O-O {[%eval 113,20] [%emt 0:02:52]} 13. Ng5
{[%eval 95,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ng6 {[%eval 109,20] [%emt 0:02:12]} 14. h4 {
[%eval 79,17] [%emt 0:01:22]} Be7 {[%eval 103,20] [%emt 0:00:47]} 15. Nxh7 {
[%eval 112,17] [%emt 0:01:42]} Nb4 {[%eval 114,20] [%emt 0:02:48]} 16. Qb1 {
[%eval 107,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kxh7 {[%eval 120,21] [%emt 0:02:25]} 17. h5 {
[%eval 104,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rc8 {[%eval 123,21] [%emt 0:02:13]} 18. hxg6+ {
[%eval 120,17] [%emt 0:00:03]} fxg6 {[%eval 147,19] [%emt 0:00:58]} 19. Nc3 {
[%eval 106,17] [%emt 0:01:18]} Bg5 {[%eval 102,19] [%emt 0:01:41]} 20. f4 {
[%eval 109,17] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qb6 {(Lh6) [%eval 147,19] [%emt 0:03:43]} 21.
Rf3 {[%eval 128,17] [%emt 0:02:16]} Bh6 {[%eval 147,19] [%emt 0:00:32]} 22. Be3
{[%eval 143,17] [%emt 0:01:45]} Nc6 {[%eval 147,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} 23. Kh1 {
[%eval 132,16] [%emt 0:01:40]} Kg8 {(Db4) [%eval 168,18] [%emt 0:02:20]} 24.
Na4 {[%eval 182,16] [%emt 0:02:24]} Qb5 {(Dc7) [%eval 209,20] [%emt 0:00:00]}
25. Nc5 {[%eval 220,16] [%emt 0:01:56]} Ne7 {
(Pd8) [%eval 252,19] [%emt 0:00:12]} 26. Nxe6 {[%eval 279,15] [%emt 0:01:58]}
Rf7 {(Tf5) [%eval 272,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27. Nc5 {
[%eval 289,15] [%emt 0:01:47]} g5 {(De2) [%eval 306,19] [%emt 0:03:08]} 28. a4
{[%eval 276,14] [%emt 0:01:10]} Qe2 {[%eval 266,20] [%emt 0:00:49]} 29. b4 {
[%eval 226,14] [%emt 0:01:34]} g4 {[%eval 232,21] [%emt 0:02:34]} 30. Ra2 {
[%eval 204,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} gxf3 {[%eval 238,21] [%emt 0:01:46]} 31. Rxe2 {
[%eval 171,18] [%emt 0:00:28]} fxe2 {[%eval 310,22] [%emt 0:03:03]} 32. Qe1 {
[%eval 170,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf4 {[%eval 230,22] [%emt 0:03:17]} 33. Qxe2 {
[%eval 159,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {[%eval 236,22] [%emt 0:03:51]} 34. Nd3 {
[%eval 70,18] [%emt 0:04:12]} Bxe3 {[%eval 219,22] [%emt 0:02:39]} 35. Qxe3 {
[%eval 67,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf1+ {(Pf5) [%eval 178,22] [%emt 0:01:11]} 36.
Kh2 {[%eval 71,14] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nf5 {[%eval 154,22] [%emt 0:00:55]} 37. Qg5
{[%eval 6,17] [%emt 0:00:49]} Rc3 {[%eval 131,21] [%emt 0:00:11]} 38. Ne1 {
[%eval 21,16] [%emt 0:02:11]} Rc6 {[%eval 5,20] [%emt 0:01:11]} 39. g3 {
[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rc3 {[%eval 2,20] [%emt 0:00:43]} 40. Qd8+ {
[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:42]} Kh7 {[%eval -2,20] [%emt 0:00:48]} 41. Qg5 {
[%eval -90,16] [%emt 0:00:10]} Nh6 {(g6) [%eval -36,20] [%emt 0:00:32]} 42. Ng2
{[%eval -46,17] [%emt 0:01:46]} Rcc1 {(Tc2) [%eval -38,19] [%emt 0:01:04]} 43.
g4 {[%eval 14,16] [%emt 0:01:05]} Rh1+ {[%eval 4,21] [%emt 0:00:37]} 44. Kg3 {
[%eval 6,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rc3+ {[%eval 4,21] [%emt 0:00:43]} 45. Ne3 {
[%eval 12,16] [%emt 0:00:35]} Re1 {(Td1) [%eval 3,21] [%emt 0:00:08]} 46. Kf3 {
[%eval 54,17] [%emt 0:01:18]} Kg8 {[%eval 3,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. e6 {
[%eval 73,18] [%emt 0:01:15]} Rcxe3+ {[%eval -6,23] [%emt 0:01:55]} 48. Qxe3 {
[%eval 281,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxe3+ {[%eval 318,27] [%emt 0:05:42]} 49. Kxe3 {
[%eval 304,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf8 {[%eval 237,23] [%emt 0:02:08]} 50. Kf4 {
[%eval 301,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ng8 {[%eval 305,28] [%emt 0:03:03]} 51. Ke5 {
[%eval 285,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {[%eval 347,26] [%emt 0:00:21]} 52. Kxd5 {
[%eval 275,24] [%emt 0:00:54]} Nf6+ {[%eval 233,24] [%emt 0:00:17]} 53. Kc6 {
[%eval 260,23] [%emt 0:00:31]} Kxe6 {[%eval 254,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 54. Kxb6 {
[%eval 262,23] [%emt 0:01:21]} Kd7 {(Pd5+) [%eval 272,28] [%emt 0:00:00]} 55.
b5 {[%eval 248,20] [%emt 0:01:01]} Nxg4 {[%eval 215,25] [%emt 0:01:13]} 56. a5
{[%eval 710,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne3 {[%eval 628,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} 57. a6 {
[%eval 712,22] [%emt 0:00:42]} Nc4+ {[%eval 632,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 58. Ka7 {
[%eval 714,23] [%emt 0:00:59]} Kc7 {[%eval 691,25] [%emt 0:00:25]} 59. d5 {
[%eval 720,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} g5 {(g6) [%eval 691,24] [%emt 0:00:12]} 60. d6+
{[%eval 728,22] [%emt 0:01:06]} Nxd6 {[%eval 1167,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 61. b6+ {
Silvertip,Deep Shredder 9.12 x gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.11s, max=0.4s) [%eval 729,
19] [%emt 0:00:02]} 1-0
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Re: One more reason to compete!! :)

Postby Tord Romstad » 17 Jan 2006, 10:48

enrico carrisco wrote:Glaurung 1.0.1 used a single CPU P4 3.0GHz laptop.
Deep Shredder 9.12 64-bit used a Quad Opteron 2.2GHz

Look specifically around moves 40-47. :)

:twisted: Tord, you've created a monster! :twisted:

Enrico, I finished a new Noomen match between Hiarcs 10 and Glaurung 1.0.1 this morning. The result:
Code: Select all
Glaurung 1.0.1-Hiarcs 10.0: 22.5-77.5 (+13,-68,=19)

And you dare to accuse me of having created a monster?! :wink:

Thanks for the Glaurung-Shredder game!

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Re: One more reason to compete!! :)

Postby enrico carrisco » 17 Jan 2006, 21:30

Hello Tord.

What time control was the match? I imagine Glaurung would do better at a longer time control.

When I get a break from HIARCS work I will see if I can come up with a set of openings that compliment Glaurung's style. From the relentless attacking I saw in the Shredder game, I have some ideas for it. 8-)


Enrico, I finished a new Noomen match between Hiarcs 10 and Glaurung 1.0.1 this morning. The result:
Code: Select all
Glaurung 1.0.1-Hiarcs 10.0: 22.5-77.5 (+13,-68,=19)

And you dare to accuse me of having created a monster?! :wink:

Thanks for the Glaurung-Shredder game!

Tord


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Re: One more reason to compete!! :)

Postby Tord Romstad » 18 Jan 2006, 00:02

Hi Enrico!

enrico carrisco wrote:What time control was the match?

4+1, which is the slowest time control I ever use. I am not a very patient person.

I imagine Glaurung would do better at a longer time control.

Perhaps, but I don't think so. Most people consider Glaurung to be a blitz specialist.

When I get a break from HIARCS work I will see if I can come up with a set of openings that compliment Glaurung's style. From the relentless attacking I saw in the Shredder game, I have some ideas for it. 8-)

Thanks, that would be really cool! But first I will have to write a new opening book editor. The one I use now is only usable for experienced Lisp programmers.

And please don't take a too long break from Hiarcs work. Hiarcs is my favorite chess program, and I want it to continue improving. :D

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