Winboard team vs. Potpurry team

[Carlos E.A. Drake]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Carlos E.A. Drake am 26 Januar 2000 22:39:45:
In DRAKE WINBOARD TOURNAMENT 13, I did a match between a "Winboard team"
( Crafty, Little Goliath, TCB, Comet, AnMon, Phalanx ) and a "Potpurry
team" ( Fritz 5.16, CM6000, Rebel Decade 2.0, MChess 3.5, Virtua Chess
II 2.1, Mephisto Genius 2.0 )< the system was the scheveningen one.
The point awaked were 27,5 to 44,5, but the results were poorest
In Frank page you'll see best information
POTPURRY TEAM
Fritz 5.16 11
Mephisto Genius 2.0 10,5
Virtua Chess II 2.1 9,5
Chessmaster 6000 1.0.0 8
Rebel Decade 2.0 6,5
MChess Pro 3.5 6
TOTAL 51,5
WINBOARD TEAM
Phalanx XXI/XXII 5,5
Little Goliath 2000a 5
TCB .0045 3,5
AnMon 5.03/5.05 3,5
Comet B-10 1,5
Crafty 15.04 1,5
Why the Crafty 15.04. It did the best in two tournaments previous, but in
it seems incomplete, or so so

[Aaron]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Aaron am 27 Januar 2000 05:14:24:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Winboard team vs. Potpurry team geschrieben von:/posted by: Carlos E.A. Drake am 26 Januar 2000 22:39:45:

In DRAKE WINBOARD TOURNAMENT 13, I did a match between a "Winboard team"
( Crafty, Little Goliath, TCB, Comet, AnMon, Phalanx ) and a "Potpurry
team" ( Fritz 5.16, CM6000, Rebel Decade 2.0, MChess 3.5, Virtua Chess
II 2.1, Mephisto Genius 2.0 )< the system was the scheveningen one.
The point awaked were 27,5 to 44,5, but the results were poorest
In Frank page you'll see best information
POTPURRY TEAM
Fritz 5.16 11
Mephisto Genius 2.0 10,5
Virtua Chess II 2.1 9,5
Chessmaster 6000 1.0.0 8
Rebel Decade 2.0 6,5
MChess Pro 3.5 6
TOTAL 51,5
WINBOARD TEAM
Phalanx XXI/XXII 5,5
Little Goliath 2000a 5
TCB .0045 3,5
AnMon 5.03/5.05 3,5
Comet B-10 1,5
Crafty 15.04 1,5
Why the Crafty 15.04. It did the best in two tournaments previous, but in
it seems incomplete, or so so

What's the time control?I suspect it's a fairly long time control? This would indidcate this tournament took a long time and explain the fact that some of the engines you used arean't the lastest(Fritz5.16 instead of 5.32, Mchess pro 3.5, Comet is up to B13, Crafty is up to 177).
Funny results..Espically Crafty1504 which did sobadly..Perhaps you should try a newer version?
Phalanx XXII results isn't surprising if it's at longer time controls..
For the commerical side, it's interesting to note that Mephisto genius 2.0 and Virtual Chess II did slightly better than Chessmaster 6000.
rebel decade 2.0 also did well with a higher score than the top winboard program..Weird, I always thought rebel decade 2.0 was far weaker than Crafty and Anmon etc Though of course, Rebel had easier opponents than Crafty and Anmon...

[Carlos]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Carlos am 27 Januar 2000 23:25:50:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Winboard team vs. Potpurry team geschrieben von:/posted by: Aaron am 27 Januar 2000 05:14:24:

In DRAKE WINBOARD TOURNAMENT 13, I did a match between a "Winboard team"
( Crafty, Little Goliath, TCB, Comet, AnMon, Phalanx ) and a "Potpurry
team" ( Fritz 5.16, CM6000, Rebel Decade 2.0, MChess 3.5, Virtua Chess
II 2.1, Mephisto Genius 2.0 )< the system was the scheveningen one.
The point awaked were 27,5 to 44,5, but the results were poorest
In Frank page you'll see best information
POTPURRY TEAM
Fritz 5.16 11
Mephisto Genius 2.0 10,5
Virtua Chess II 2.1 9,5
Chessmaster 6000 1.0.0 8
Rebel Decade 2.0 6,5
MChess Pro 3.5 6
TOTAL 51,5
WINBOARD TEAM
Phalanx XXI/XXII 5,5
Little Goliath 2000a 5
TCB .0045 3,5
AnMon 5.03/5.05 3,5
Comet B-10 1,5
Crafty 15.04 1,5
Why the Crafty 15.04. It did the best in two tournaments previous, but in
it seems incomplete, or so so

What's the time control?I suspect it's a fairly long time control? This would indidcate this tournament took a long time and explain the fact that some of the engines you used arean't the lastest(Fritz5.16 instead of 5.32, Mchess pro 3.5, Comet is up to B13, Crafty is up to 177).
Funny results..Espically Crafty1504 which did sobadly..Perhaps you should try a newer version?
Phalanx XXII results isn't surprising if it's at longer time controls..
For the commerical side, it's interesting to note that Mephisto genius 2.0 and Virtual Chess II did slightly better than Chessmaster 6000.
rebel decade 2.0 also did well with a higher score than the top winboard program..Weird, I always thought rebel decade 2.0 was far weaker than Crafty and Anmon etc Though of course, Rebel had easier opponents than Crafty and Anmon...

Sorry, Aaron, but the level was 8'+2" for each game in a Pentium 133 with ~8 Mb
de HT. The reasons about Crafty 15.04 and not a 17.**, is the best results about
15.04 in two tournaments before; 15.04 did the work best than 16.18, look for
DRAKE WINBOARD 12 in Frank's page..
Genius 2.0 ever plays strong in all my proves, Virtual II 2.1 too, but CM6000
was more irregular.
Regards
Carlos

[Carlos]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Carlos am 28 Januar 2000 00:03:45:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Winboard team vs. Potpurry team geschrieben von:/posted by: Carlos am 27 Januar 2000 23:25:50:

In DRAKE WINBOARD TOURNAMENT 13, I did a match between a "Winboard team"
( Crafty, Little Goliath, TCB, Comet, AnMon, Phalanx ) and a "Potpurry
team" ( Fritz 5.16, CM6000, Rebel Decade 2.0, MChess 3.5, Virtua Chess
II 2.1, Mephisto Genius 2.0 )< the system was the scheveningen one.
The point awaked were 27,5 to 44,5, but the results were poorest
In Frank page you'll see best information
POTPURRY TEAM
Fritz 5.16 11
Mephisto Genius 2.0 10,5
Virtua Chess II 2.1 9,5
Chessmaster 6000 1.0.0 8
Rebel Decade 2.0 6,5
MChess Pro 3.5 6
TOTAL 51,5
WINBOARD TEAM
Phalanx XXI/XXII 5,5
Little Goliath 2000a 5
TCB .0045 3,5
AnMon 5.03/5.05 3,5
Comet B-10 1,5
Crafty 15.04 1,5
Why the Crafty 15.04. It did the best in two tournaments previous, but in
it seems incomplete, or so so

What's the time control?I suspect it's a fairly long time control? This would indidcate this tournament took a long time and explain the fact that some of the engines you used arean't the lastest(Fritz5.16 instead of 5.32, Mchess pro 3.5, Comet is up to B13, Crafty is up to 177).
Funny results..Espically Crafty1504 which did sobadly..Perhaps you should try a newer version?
Phalanx XXII results isn't surprising if it's at longer time controls..
For the commerical side, it's interesting to note that Mephisto genius 2.0 and Virtual Chess II did slightly better than Chessmaster 6000.
rebel decade 2.0 also did well with a higher score than the top winboard program..Weird, I always thought rebel decade 2.0 was far weaker than Crafty and Anmon etc Though of course, Rebel had easier opponents than Crafty and Anmon...

Sorry, Aaron, but the level was 8'+2" for each game in a Pentium 133 with ~8 Mb
de HT. The reasons about Crafty 15.04 and not a 17.**, is the best results about
15.04 in two tournaments before; 15.04 did the work best than 16.18, look for
DRAKE WINBOARD 12 in Frank's page..
Genius 2.0 ever plays strong in all my proves, Virtual II 2.1 too, but CM6000
was more irregular.
Regards
Carlos

Sorry, again, Aaron and everybody, but I don't advert than this tournament
not have a place in Frank's page, because it was include NOT WINBOARD PROGRAMS,
so you don't apreciate the XLS and PGN files. In a future comment I try to
explain a bit the tournament and I like to include the same in other page,
maybe Sergio Martinez,
Kind regards
Carlos

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky am 28 Januar 2000 09:52:14:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: ...but not in Frank's page...sorry geschrieben von:/posted by: Carlos am 28 Januar 2000 00:03:45:

In DRAKE WINBOARD TOURNAMENT 13, I did a match between a "Winboard team"
( Crafty, Little Goliath, TCB, Comet, AnMon, Phalanx ) and a "Potpurry
team" ( Fritz 5.16, CM6000, Rebel Decade 2.0, MChess 3.5, Virtua Chess
II 2.1, Mephisto Genius 2.0 )< the system was the scheveningen one.
The point awaked were 27,5 to 44,5, but the results were poorest
In Frank page you'll see best information
POTPURRY TEAM
Fritz 5.16 11
Mephisto Genius 2.0 10,5
Virtua Chess II 2.1 9,5
Chessmaster 6000 1.0.0 8
Rebel Decade 2.0 6,5
MChess Pro 3.5 6
TOTAL 51,5
WINBOARD TEAM
Phalanx XXI/XXII 5,5
Little Goliath 2000a 5
TCB .0045 3,5
AnMon 5.03/5.05 3,5
Comet B-10 1,5
Crafty 15.04 1,5
Why the Crafty 15.04. It did the best in two tournaments previous, but in
it seems incomplete, or so so

What's the time control?I suspect it's a fairly long time control? This would indidcate this tournament took a long time and explain the fact that some of the engines you used arean't the lastest(Fritz5.16 instead of 5.32, Mchess pro 3.5, Comet is up to B13, Crafty is up to 177).
Funny results..Espically Crafty1504 which did sobadly..Perhaps you should try a newer version?
Phalanx XXII results isn't surprising if it's at longer time controls..
For the commerical side, it's interesting to note that Mephisto genius 2.0 and Virtual Chess II did slightly better than Chessmaster 6000.
rebel decade 2.0 also did well with a higher score than the top winboard program..Weird, I always thought rebel decade 2.0 was far weaker than Crafty and Anmon etc Though of course, Rebel had easier opponents than Crafty and Anmon...

Sorry, Aaron, but the level was 8'+2" for each game in a Pentium 133 with ~8 Mb
de HT. The reasons about Crafty 15.04 and not a 17.**, is the best results about
15.04 in two tournaments before; 15.04 did the work best than 16.18, look for
DRAKE WINBOARD 12 in Frank's page..
Genius 2.0 ever plays strong in all my proves, Virtual II 2.1 too, but CM6000
was more irregular.
Regards
Carlos

Sorry, again, Aaron and everybody, but I don't advert than this tournament
not have a place in Frank's page, because it was include NOT WINBOARD PROGRAMS,
so you don't apreciate the XLS and PGN files. In a future comment I try to
explain a bit the tournament and I like to include the same in other page,
maybe Sergio Martinez,
Kind regards
Carlos

Hi,
yes it it to many work for me when I put all tournaments with non WinBoard programs on my pages. When I make this I get to many tournaments which the people play under Chess-Base GUIs. I have then not time for other stuff and sitting 12 hours on the day for my PC !
Carlos wrote me that he can understand my reason.
Regards
Frank

[Carlos]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Carlos am 31 Januar 2000 22:30:55:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: ...but not in Frank's page...sorry geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky am 28 Januar 2000 09:52:14:

Hi,
yes it it to many work for me when I put all tournaments with non WinBoard programs on my pages. When I make this I get to many tournaments which the people play under Chess-Base GUIs. I have then not time for other stuff and sitting 12 hours on the day for my PC !
Carlos wrote me that he can understand my reason.
Regards
Frank

Of course, I undestood, Frank.
The tournament and games are in Sergio Martinez's page at
www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Hoop/4317/Drake13.htm
Regards
Carlos