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by **WYx** » 09 Feb 2000, 09:49

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: WYx at 09 February 2000 09:49:02:
Hallo
Ich habe viele probleme mit Amy BLITZ.
Amy schritt noch einmal wahrend den 5 Minuten.
Kann jemand mir helfen?
Gruss
WYx

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 09 Feb 2000, 09:55

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 09 February 2000 09:55:26:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: AMy rimecontrol problem? geschrieben von:/posted by: WYx at 09 February 2000 09:49:02:

Hallo
Ich habe viele probleme mit Amy BLITZ.
Amy schritt noch einmal wahrend den 5 Minuten.
Kann jemand mir helfen?
Gruss
WYx

I think your problem is ponder=on !
See my detail page. I play games over night and I have not problems with problems.
Look under Options / General / Ponder next move under your Winboard Menue !
I hope that is it !
Regards
Frank

by **Mogens Larsen** » 09 Feb 2000, 11:27

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 11:27:47:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: AMy rimecontrol problem? geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 09 February 2000 09:55:26:

I think your problem is ponder=on !
See my detail page. I play games over night and I have not problems with problems.
Look under Options / General / Ponder next move under your Winboard Menue !
I hope that is it !
Regards
Frank

I made a 20 game test over night against Bringer1.6 and I have the same problem as my hungarian friend. Even though Amy won 10.5-9.5 it lost 6 (!) games on time. Under these circumstances a win is impressive. Bringer screwes up a game too, but I don't think it's a bug.
Best wishes...
Mogens

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 09 Feb 2000, 11:35

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 09 February 2000 11:35:26:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: AMy timecontrol problem? geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 11:27:47:

I think your problem is ponder=on !
See my detail page. I play games over night and I have not problems with problems.
Look under Options / General / Ponder next move under your Winboard Menue !
I hope that is it !
Regards
Frank
I made a 20 game test over night against Bringer1.6 and I have the same problem as my hungarian friend. Even though Amy won 10.5-9.5 it lost 6 (!) games on time. Under these circumstances a win is impressive. Bringer screwes up a game too, but I don't think it's a bug.
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens,
yes I see that problem :-(

I have not an idea, I think here the programmer can help !
Regards
Frank

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 09 Feb 2000, 11:39

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 09 February 2000 11:39:23:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Amy timecontrol problem, yes I see that problem ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 09 February 2000 11:35:26:

I think your problem is ponder=on !
See my detail page. I play games over night and I have not problems with problems.
Look under Options / General / Ponder next move under your Winboard Menue !
I hope that is it !
Regards
Frank
I made a 20 game test over night against Bringer1.6 and I have the same problem as my hungarian friend. Even though Amy won 10.5-9.5 it lost 6 (!) games on time. Under these circumstances a win is impressive. Bringer screwes up a game too, but I don't think it's a bug.
Best wishes...
Mogens
Hi Mogens,
yes I see that problem
I have not an idea, I think here the programmer can help !
Regards
Frank

Hello,
an idea ...
WinBoard Menue ...
Options / General / Auto Flag (off) !
I hope this solve the problem for the moment !
Regards
Frank

by **Mogens Larsen** » 09 Feb 2000, 11:47

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 11:47:34:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Amy timecontrol problem, yes I see that problem ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 09 February 2000 11:39:23:

Hello,
an idea ...
WinBoard Menue ...
Options / General / Auto Flag (off) !
I hope this solve the problem for the moment !
Regards
Frank

I was contemplating this solution too. Hopefully it's not a problem in Paderborn? It could be a porting bug.
Best wishes...
Mogens

by **WYx** » 09 Feb 2000, 11:56

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: WYx at 09 February 2000 11:56:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: AMy timecontrol problem? geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 11:27:47:

I think your problem is ponder=on !
See my detail page. I play games over night and I have not problems with problems.
Look under Options / General / Ponder next move under your Winboard Menue !
I hope that is it !
Regards
Frank
I made a 20 game test over night against Bringer1.6 and I have the same problem as my hungarian friend. Even though Amy won 10.5-9.5 it lost 6 (!) games on time. Under these circumstances a win is impressive. Bringer screwes up a game too, but I don't think it's a bug.
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens
Dein TimeControl war 5 min/40 moves?
Icb bin traurig, Amy ist in BLITZ wahrscheinlich stark.
Gruss
WYx

by **Thorsten.Greiner** » 09 Feb 2000, 12:58

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Thorsten.Greiner at 09 February 2000 12:58:09:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Amy timecontrol problem, yes I see that problem ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 11:47:34:

Hello,
an idea ...
WinBoard Menue ...
Options / General / Auto Flag (off) !
I hope this solve the problem for the moment !
Regards
Frank
I was contemplating this solution too. Hopefully it's not a problem in Paderborn? It could be a porting bug.
Best wishes...
Mogens

Are this more than a few seconds that Amy looses on time? If not, it is probably a known problem - Amy does not honor the 'time' command from winboard, so its internal clock might get out of sync with the winboard clock.
I promise it will be fixed in the next release...
-Thorsten

by **Thomas Mayer** » 09 Feb 2000, 13:10

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Thomas Mayer at 09 February 2000 13:10:45:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: AMy rimecontrol problem? geschrieben von:/posted by: WYx at 09 February 2000 09:49:02:
Hallo WYx,

Ich habe viele probleme mit Amy BLITZ.
Amy schritt noch einmal wahrend den 5 Minuten.
Kann jemand mir helfen?

Also ganz wichtig ist, daß ponder=off eingestellt ist. Ansonsten hatte Amy bei mir eigentlich nie ein Problem mit der Zeit, auch wenn ich die Einteilung nicht immer ganz nachvollziehen konnte, bei schnellen kurzen Spielen mußte es am Ende immer unheimlich schnell ziehen und brachte einfachste Endspiele nicht nach Hause, so hat es einmal gegen Cilian bei einem 2 Minuten Match es nicht geschafft mit der Dame Mattzusetzen, so daß es ein Unentschieden wurde...
Was auffällig ist: auch wenn das Programm 25 Minuten für die ganze Partie hat, benötigt es zu anfangst immer 1/40 der Gesamtbedenkzeit für jeden Zug. Das geht so, bis das Programm vielleicht noch 3 oder 4 Minuten hat, dann beginnt es schneller zu ziehen.
Auch die Blitzstärke scheint vom verwendeten Computer abzuhängen. Bei Frank, der einen schnellen AMD hat, blitzt das Programm hervorragend. Ich teste auf einem Pentium 233 MMX und da schaut es bei schnellen Blitzen bei weitem nicht so gut aus. Beispiel: Gegen Cilian gabs im 2/Game ein 13:7 für Cilian. Bei 25/Game sah das alles schon ganz anders aus: 9,5:0,5 für Amy und den Partien zu Folge wurde Cilian meist regelrecht überspielt... werde jetzt mal mit nem anderen Gegner testen, vielleicht AnMon...
Gruß, Thomas

by **Mogens Larsen** » 09 Feb 2000, 15:40

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 15:40:49:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: AMy timecontrol problem? geschrieben von:/posted by: WYx at 09 February 2000 11:56:31:

Hi Mogens
Dein TimeControl war 5 min/40 moves?
Icb bin traurig, Amy ist in BLITZ wahrscheinlich stark.
Gruss
WYx

Nein, mein zeitkontrolle war 10 m/40 moves, aber es ist doch Blitz/Rapid. Viellicht braucht Amy mehr zeit, zum beispiel 40/40? Ich bin auch traurig

(.
Gruss
Mogens

by **Mogens Larsen** » 09 Feb 2000, 15:47

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 15:47:16:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Amy timecontrol problem, yes I see that problem ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Thorsten.Greiner at 09 February 2000 12:58:09:

Are this more than a few seconds that Amy looses on time? If not, it is probably a known problem - Amy does not honor the 'time' command from winboard, so its internal clock might get out of sync with the winboard clock.
I promise it will be fixed in the next release...
-Thorsten

In the games I saw before I went to bed, Amy had to make three-four moves within 10-15 seconds. It couldn't handle that. At least not everytime.
mvh.
Mogens

by **Dann Corbit** » 09 Feb 2000, 20:16

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Dann Corbit at 09 February 2000 20:16:17:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Amy timecontrol problem, yes I see that problem ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 09 February 2000 15:47:16:

Are this more than a few seconds that Amy looses on time? If not, it is probably a known problem - Amy does not honor the 'time' command from winboard, so its internal clock might get out of sync with the winboard clock.
I promise it will be fixed in the next release...
-Thorsten
In the games I saw before I went to bed, Amy had to make three-four moves within 10-15 seconds. It couldn't handle that. At least not everytime.
mvh.

Amy does better and better with slower time control. At least for the Winboard port I have clearly seen this. I don't think it will do well at blitz, but I think it will be a monster at 40/2. That is fine with me because I despise blitz anyway.

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