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by **Frank Quisinsky** » 19 Feb 2000, 13:31

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 13:31:52:
Hello,
the program is complete rewritten. More information
in my NEW detail page (in german) in my News Ticker
and the other engine pages (overview I and II,
top downloader page ...).
Regards
Frank
(thanks Kai and Frank)

Frank`s Chess Page

by **Ralf Andersen** » 19 Feb 2000, 14:16

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Ralf Andersen at 19 February 2000 14:16:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 13:31:52:

Hello,
the program is complete rewritten. More information
in my NEW detail page (in german) in my News Ticker
and the other engine pages (overview I and II,
top downloader page ...).
Regards
Frank
(thanks Kai and Frank)

warum verlangt Gromit mindestens 16 MB Hash-Tables? Gibt es dafür einen besonderen Grund?
Gruß
Ralf

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 19 Feb 2000, 14:42

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 14:42:16:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Ralf Andersen at 19 February 2000 14:16:31:

Hello,
the program is complete rewritten. More information
in my NEW detail page (in german) in my News Ticker
and the other engine pages (overview I and II,
top downloader page ...).
Regards
Frank
(thanks Kai and Frank)
warum verlangt Gromit mindestens 16 MB Hash-Tables? Gibt es dafür einen besonderen Grund?

Ich denke mal, daß unter 16 MB die Leistung bedingt durch die Hash-Tabellen im größeren Maße abfällt. Das ist ja auch nichts neues, Rudolf Huber hat hier 20 MB gegeben, als festen Wert.
Gruß
Frank

by **Volker Pittlik** » 19 Feb 2000, 14:44

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 19 February 2000 14:44:46:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 13:31:52:
Ftrit4.fbk.zip ist fehlerhaft. Falscher CRC.
Volker

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 19 Feb 2000, 14:54

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 14:54:07:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Volker Pittlik at 19 February 2000 14:44:46:

Ftrit4.fbk.zip ist fehlerhaft. Falscher CRC.
Volker

Jau !
Das ist natürlich dumm gelaufen !
Behoben !
Danke Volker
Gruß
Frank

by **Mogens Larsen** » 19 Feb 2000, 15:52

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 19 February 2000 15:52:50:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Fehler in der fritz4_book.zip behoben, sorry ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 14:54:07:

Ftrit4.fbk.zip ist fehlerhaft. Falscher CRC.
Volker
Jau !
Das ist natürlich dumm gelaufen !
Behoben !
Danke Volker
Gruß
Frank

I experienced the same, but you can use a pgnbook, so I just used fritz4.pgn. It's nice that TCB and Gromit use the same userinterface. Looking forward to seeing how strong it is.
Best wishes...
Mogens

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 19 Feb 2000, 16:03

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 16:03:23:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Fehler in der fritz4_book.zip behoben, sorry ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 19 February 2000 15:52:50:

Ftrit4.fbk.zip ist fehlerhaft. Falscher CRC.
Volker
Jau !
Das ist natürlich dumm gelaufen !
Behoben !
Danke Volker
Gruß
Frank
I experienced the same, but you can use a pgnbook, so I just used fritz4.pgn. It's nice that TCB and Gromit use the same userinterface. Looking forward to seeing how strong it is.
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens,
I repair my mistake in the download book file, no problem !
You can use the fritz4 book.
Regards
Frank

by **Kai Skibbe** » 19 Feb 2000, 16:46

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kai Skibbe at 19 February 2000 16:46:42:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Ralf Andersen at 19 February 2000 14:16:31:

Hello,
the program is complete rewritten. More information
in my NEW detail page (in german) in my News Ticker
and the other engine pages (overview I and II,
top downloader page ...).
Regards
Frank
(thanks Kai and Frank)
warum verlangt Gromit mindestens 16 MB Hash-Tables? Gibt es dafür einen besonderen Grund?

Da Gromit mehrere Hashtabellen hat, verteilen sich die 16MB auf die einzelnen Tabellen. Wenn du Winboard mit /debug startest dann kannst du im Debug-File sehen wieviel Speicher sich Gromit dann wirklich für die Such- und die Bewertungshashtabelle nimmt. Es gibt dann noch 3 kleinere Hashtabellen, die aber nicht sehr groß sind. Zu beachten ist auch, daß die Nalimov-Tablebases sich noch zusätzlich Speicher nehmen !
Gruß Kai

by **Kurt Utzinger** » 19 Feb 2000, 20:24

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 19 February 2000 20:24:52:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 13:31:52:
Is it really true that Gromit 3.00 does not have its own opening book?

by **Frank Quisinsky** » 19 Feb 2000, 21:14

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 19 February 2000 21:14:37:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 19 February 2000 20:24:52:

Is it really true that Gromit 3.00 does not have its own opening book?

The program is very young and I think that Kai and Frank made in the next time or "later" :-)

an opening book. But I play a lot of test games with Gromit in the last months (with test versions) and must say that the Fritz4 book is very good for Gromit !
In one of 200 games lose Gromit in a opening variant very fast !
Regards
Frank

by **Kai Skibbe** » 19 Feb 2000, 21:14

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kai Skibbe at 19 February 2000 21:14:58:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 19 February 2000 20:24:52:

Is it really true that Gromit 3.00 does not have its own opening book?

So far Frank and I have worked very hard on the engine. The openingbook will be improved in the future, but we have many ideas to improve the engine first.
Kai

by **Mogens Larsen** » 19 Feb 2000, 23:56

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 19 February 2000 23:56:01:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 19 February 2000 20:24:52:

Is it really true that Gromit 3.00 does not have its own opening book?

You can use the book from The Crazy Bishop or create a book from a pgn-collection. As long as it is possible to create a reasonable book yourself it isn't that troublesome. BTW, big thanks goes to Schneider and Skibbe for releasing Gromit to the public.
Best wishes...
Mogens

by **Kurt Utzinger** » 20 Feb 2000, 12:19

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 20 February 2000 12:19:36:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Gromit 3.00 by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe is available ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 19 February 2000 23:56:01:

Is it really true that Gromit 3.00 does not have its own opening book?
You can use the book from The Crazy Bishop or create a book from a pgn-collection. As long as it is possible to create a reasonable book yourself it isn't that troublesome. BTW, big thanks goes to Schneider and Skibbe for releasing Gromit to the public.
Best wishes...
Mogens

Reply to Mogens:
You are right. We must be thankful to Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe for releasing Gromit 3.00 to the public. And by the way I can confirm that the fritz4.fbk is in general a very good book for almost all chess programs.
Best wishes
Kurt

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