New Winboard program "Gullydeckel 2"

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 12 April 2000 22:44:15:
I am working on a port of a Winboard program called "Gullydeckel 2" by Martin Borriss. See http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mb14/gully2.html for a reference.
Previously, it was UNIX only for Xboard.
The port has gone well so far, and it looks like an excellent performer for fast games.
I don't know if I shall be premitted to release either source or binary, but if I can, I think the Winboard community will enjoy the results.


My FTP site

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Pete Galati at 12 April 2000 23:46:41:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 12 April 2000 22:44:15:

I am working on a port of a Winboard program called "Gullydeckel 2" by Martin Borriss. See http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mb14/gully2.html for a reference.
Previously, it was UNIX only for Xboard.
The port has gone well so far, and it looks like an excellent performer for fast games.
I don't know if I shall be premitted to release either source or binary, but if I can, I think the Winboard community will enjoy the results.

We need to add more letters to the alphabet. Have we finally run out of Chess program names? Actually, that's one of the best names I've seen in a long time, what does Gullydeckel mean?
Keep us posted.
Pete

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 13 April 2000 00:01:09:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Pete Galati at 12 April 2000 23:46:41:

I am working on a port of a Winboard program called "Gullydeckel 2" by Martin Borriss. See http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mb14/gully2.html for a reference.
Previously, it was UNIX only for Xboard.
The port has gone well so far, and it looks like an excellent performer for fast games.
I don't know if I shall be premitted to release either source or binary, but if I can, I think the Winboard community will enjoy the results.

We need to add more letters to the alphabet. Have we finally run out of Chess program names? Actually, that's one of the best names I've seen in a long time, what does Gullydeckel mean?
Keep us posted.
Pete

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 13 April 2000 00:06:09:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Pete Galati at 12 April 2000 23:46:41:

I am working on a port of a Winboard program called "Gullydeckel 2" by Martin Borriss. See http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mb14/gully2.html for a reference.
Previously, it was UNIX only for Xboard.
The port has gone well so far, and it looks like an excellent performer for fast games.
I don't know if I shall be premitted to release either source or binary, but if I can, I think the Winboard community will enjoy the results.

We need to add more letters to the alphabet. Have we finally run out of Chess program names? Actually, that's one of the best names I've seen in a long time, what does Gullydeckel mean?

Gullydeckel is the programmer's older brother.


My FTP site

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 13 April 2000 14:04:02:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 13 April 2000 00:06:09:
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We need to add more letters to the alphabet. Have we finally run out of Chess program names? Actually, that's one of the best names I've seen in a long time, what does Gullydeckel mean?

Gullydeckel is the programmer's older brother.

Sorry, I'm not *absolutetly* sure about that
"Gullydeckel" is a very unconventional name for a chess program and for a program at all. It's hard to translate, I didn't find it in any dictionary. Let me try to explain. "Gullydeckel" is a combination of two words "Gully" and "Deckel". Deckel is very easy to translate, it means cap or cover. "Gully" is a special part of a large sewer pipe , something like an entrance. Please click on the link below and look at the picture of the bottom of the page. That guy is inside something what we call a "Gully" in german. So a "Gullydeckel" is something covering the "Gully" to prevent someone to fall inside the sewer pipe.


Gully

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 13 April 2000 14:48:45:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 13 April 2000 14:04:02:
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program at all. It's hard to translate, I didn't find it in any dictionary. Let
Eventually I found it: Gullydeckel means manhole cover.
Volker

[Colin Frayn]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Colin Frayn at 13 April 2000 15:28:19:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 13 April 2000 14:48:45:

Eventually I found it: Gullydeckel means manhole cover.
Volker

Well you live and learn....
That's a pretty impressive name
Cheers,
Col

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Pete Galati at 13 April 2000 16:51:13:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Colin Frayn at 13 April 2000 15:28:19:

Eventually I found it: Gullydeckel means manhole cover.
Volker

Well you live and learn....
That's a pretty impressive name
Cheers,
Col

But are we really talking about manhole covers,or is it more like those vertilcal grates like you would see on TeleTubies. Or, the town where I live has large open drain-water sewers and tunnels that run around the downtown areas in town. There a bit like small canals, and before the tunnels, but not close enough to prevent you from getting into the tunnels, are large grates that are much like jail bars that are there to prevent logs from floating into the tunnels.
Maybe a Gullydeckel is more like one of those situations rather than a manhole cover.
Pete

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 13 April 2000 19:49:50:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Pete Galati at 13 April 2000 16:51:13:

Eventually I found it: Gullydeckel means manhole cover.
Volker

Well you live and learn....
That's a pretty impressive name
Cheers,
Col

But are we really talking about manhole covers,or is it more like those vertilcal grates like you would see on TeleTubies.
Or, the town where I live has large open drain-water sewers and tunnels that run around the downtown areas in town. There a bit like small canals, and before the tunnels, but not close enough to prevent you from getting into the tunnels, are large grates that are much like jail bars that are there to prevent logs from floating into the tunnels.
Maybe a Gullydeckel is more like one of those situations rather than a manhole cover.
Pete

Yes, let's think about some other names for chess programs: what's about pencil, beer bottle, land registration office ?
Sorry, I have never seen TeleTubies.
I think it is impossible to find Gullydeckel in a dictionary because it is one of these compound words we Germans like so much (please click on the link below to learn more about this). The problem is to explain what Gully means. A Gully is a hole in the ground through which someone can enter the sewers and tunnels. The Gullydeckel usually closes this hole.
Anyway, I hope Dann will be allowed to publish the program sometimes. It seems to be interesting.
Volker


The Awful German Language

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Pete Galati at 13 April 2000 22:04:24:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 13 April 2000 19:49:50:

Eventually I found it: Gullydeckel means manhole cover.
Volker

Well you live and learn....
That's a pretty impressive name
Cheers,
Col

But are we really talking about manhole covers,or is it more like those vertilcal grates like you would see on TeleTubies.
Or, the town where I live has large open drain-water sewers and tunnels that run around the downtown areas in town. There a bit like small canals, and before the tunnels, but not close enough to prevent you from getting into the tunnels, are large grates that are much like jail bars that are there to prevent logs from floating into the tunnels.
Maybe a Gullydeckel is more like one of those situations rather than a manhole cover.
Pete

Yes, let's think about some other names for chess programs: what's about pencil, beer bottle, land registration office ?
Sorry, I have never seen TeleTubies.
I think it is impossible to find Gullydeckel in a dictionary because it is one of these compound words we Germans like so much (please click on the link below to learn more about this). The problem is to explain what Gully means. A Gully is a hole in the ground through which someone can enter the sewers and tunnels. The Gullydeckel usually closes this hole.
Anyway, I hope Dann will be allowed to publish the program sometimes. It seems to be interesting.
Volker

To those of us who only speak English, German seems extremely difficult. And it's not something where you can look up a string of German words in a dictionary and easily know what was being said, because you end up finding that each word means about 35 different things! And then the sequence of the sentences is very different.
So, it's not surprising at all that Altavista's jellyfish does such a bad job of translating.
And I see how much better Frank is at speaking English now, than he was about a year ago, and I'm ammazed. Because I couldn't have done that.
I don't know how you can even think in German without getting a headache. I picture an entire country walking around all day long with headaches because of having to think in your own language.
In a German movie where there are outer space creatures, do they speak German or English? Because in American movies that have space aliens, for some reason, they allways speak English, so it's allway been a bit confusing that people from other planets speak English, but several large populations on Earth doesn't.
Yes, I hope Dann get's to publish Gullydeckel.
Pete

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 13 April 2000 23:16:20:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Pete Galati at 13 April 2000 22:04:24:

And I see how much better Frank is at speaking English now, than he was about a year ago, and I'm ammazed. Because I couldn't have done that.
I don't know how you can even think in German without getting a headache. I picture an entire country walking around all day long with headaches because of having to think in your own language.
In a German movie where there are outer space creatures, do they speak German or English? Because in American movies that have space aliens, for some reason, they allways speak English, so it's allway been a bit confusing that people from other planets speak English, but several large populations on Earth doesn't.

Especially since (almost) all foreign films are synchronized with german speech. I've got 5 or 6 german channels, but listening to James Bond speaking german takes most of the fun out of it.
They speak in german )
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 13 April 2000 23:41:36:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 13 April 2000 23:16:20:

And I see how much better Frank is at speaking English now, than he was about a year ago, and I'm ammazed. Because I couldn't have done that.

Especially since (almost) all foreign films are synchronized with german speech. I've got 5 or 6 german channels, but listening to James Bond speaking german takes most of the fun out of it.

When I lived in Turkey, I used to watch "Baretta" on Turkish TV. They gave him a high, squeaky voice, and it was absolutely hilarious.


My FTP site

[Frank Schubert]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Frank Schubert at 14 April 2000 00:10:23:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 12 April 2000 22:44:15:

I am working on a port of a Winboard program called "Gullydeckel 2" by Martin Borriss. See http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mb14/gully2.html for a reference.
Previously, it was UNIX only for Xboard.
The port has gone well so far, and it looks like an excellent performer for fast games.
I don't know if I shall be premitted to release either source or binary, but if I can, I think the Winboard community will enjoy the results.

Hi,
I am also interested in the new program. Martin Borriss is a very good chess
player. He is playing in the German Bundesliga in the team of Dresden. His
ELO is 2440.
Frank

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 14 April 2000 01:04:39:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: OT: Voice-overs geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 13 April 2000 23:41:36:

Especially since (almost) all foreign films are synchronized with german speech. I've got 5 or 6 german channels, but listening to James Bond speaking german takes most of the fun out of it.

When I lived in Turkey, I used to watch "Baretta" on Turkish TV. They gave him a high, squeaky voice, and it was absolutely hilarious.

It is hilarious to hear John Wayne (Hände hoch) or Clint Eastwood make threats in german, but it wears off. I don't understand why germans won't accept subtexts instead, it's common in Denmark unless it's a Disney movie or something similar.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 14 April 2000 01:49:25:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New Winboard program geschrieben von: / posted by: Frank Schubert at 14 April 2000 00:10:23:

I am working on a port of a Winboard program called "Gullydeckel 2" by Martin Borriss. See http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mb14/gully2.html for a reference.
Previously, it was UNIX only for Xboard.
The port has gone well so far, and it looks like an excellent performer for fast games.
I don't know if I shall be premitted to release either source or binary, but if I can, I think the Winboard community will enjoy the results.

Hi,
I am also interested in the new program. Martin Borriss is a very good chess
player. He is playing in the German Bundesliga in the team of Dresden. His
ELO is 2440.

That's very interesting. Probably one of the strongest players among those who also care to write chess software in the world. He also mentioned to me that he would like to fiddle with the evaluation functions some. It might be a very fruitful enterprise.


My FTP site

[Djordje Vidanovic]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Djordje Vidanovic at 14 April 2000 17:58:06:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: OT: Re: Voice-overs geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 14 April 2000 01:04:39:

Especially since (almost) all foreign films are synchronized with german speech. I've got 5 or 6 german channels, but listening to James Bond speaking german takes most of the fun out of it.

When I lived in Turkey, I used to watch "Baretta" on Turkish TV. They gave him a high, squeaky voice, and it was absolutely hilarious.

It is hilarious to hear John Wayne (Hände hoch) or Clint Eastwood make threats in german, but it wears off. I don't understand why germans won't accept subtexts instead, it's common in Denmark unless it's a Disney movie or something similar.
Best wishes...
Mogens

It does NOT wear off :=))
Djordje
PS: Talking about funny names, I find Lambchop is very funny too. This Gully thing is definitely "Manhole Cover" which is a whopper as well.

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Pete Galati at 14 April 2000 20:17:48:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: OT: Re: Voice-overs geschrieben von: / posted by: Djordje Vidanovic at 14 April 2000 17:58:06:

Especially since (almost) all foreign films are synchronized with german speech. I've got 5 or 6 german channels, but listening to James Bond speaking german takes most of the fun out of it.

When I lived in Turkey, I used to watch "Baretta" on Turkish TV. They gave him a high, squeaky voice, and it was absolutely hilarious.

It is hilarious to hear John Wayne (Hände hoch) or Clint Eastwood make threats in german, but it wears off. I don't understand why germans won't accept subtexts instead, it's common in Denmark unless it's a Disney movie or something similar.
Best wishes...
Mogens

It does NOT wear off :=))
Djordje
PS: Talking about funny names, I find Lambchop is very funny too. This Gully thing is definitely "Manhole Cover" which is a whopper as well.

It might be as hard to win a game against as a manhole cover is to pick up. It's probably a heavy program.
Pete