Amy vs. YACE

[Gábor Szõts]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Gábor Szõts at 09 June 2000 15:19:38:
30 games at 60/5 on a Pentium 166 with 4 MB hash:
YACE - Amy 17,5 - 12,5 (13-8-9)
I hope this doesn't mean we have to reconsider how many stars to give to Amy... .

[Aaron]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Aaron at 09 June 2000 18:51:28:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Amy vs. YACE geschrieben von: / posted by: Gábor Szõts at 09 June 2000 15:19:38:

30 games at 60/5 on a Pentium 166 with 4 MB hash:
YACE - Amy 17,5 - 12,5 (13-8-9)
I hope this doesn't mean we have to reconsider how many stars to give to >Amy... .

Depends on whether Yace does as well against others of the same Caliber as Amy..
But yes, the newest YAce looks much better than AMy at least at blitz time controls..But can it handle Anmon or even crafty? even a 50% against These programs would be amazing..
But unlike many here, i don't find Amy that strong..Top 10 maybe, but barely..

Aaron..

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 10 June 2000 10:31:39:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy vs. YACE geschrieben von: / posted by: Aaron at 09 June 2000 18:51:28:

30 games at 60/5 on a Pentium 166 with 4 MB hash:
YACE - Amy 17,5 - 12,5 (13-8-9)
I hope this doesn't mean we have to reconsider how many stars to give to >Amy... .

Depends on whether Yace does as well against others of the same Caliber as Amy..
But yes, the newest YAce looks much better than AMy at least at blitz time controls..But can it handle Anmon or even crafty? even a 50% against These programs would be amazing..
But unlike many here, i don't find Amy that strong..Top 10 maybe, but barely..

Amy is not a great blitz program. But at longer time controls, Amy shines.
Yace is like Amy. At 40/2 Yace will be a terror.
OTOH, AnMon seems to have Yace's number. AnMon is a great positional program. Maybe that is the weakness.
Yace is so new it is funny. Three weeks ago, the author did not even know about WinBoard. Think about that for a while.
Many new stars on the horizon. Some may surprise you. I also predict great things for some you may not expect. Even ColChess may grow monster fangs and begin to eat the weaker species. His move generator is a sight to behold. And his checkmate recognition borders on genius.
Something lurks in the dark. Will it bite?
Better wear a helmet and gloves. It's not very safe out there.


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[Aaron]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Aaron at 10 June 2000 10:48:35:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy vs. YACE geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 10 June 2000 10:31:39:

But yes, the newest YAce looks much better than AMy at least at blitz time >>controls..But can it handle Anmon or even crafty? even a 50% against These >>programs would be amazing..
But unlike many here, i don't find Amy that strong..Top 10 maybe, but barely..

Amy is not a great blitz program. But at longer time controls, Amy shines.
Yace is like Amy. At 40/2 Yace will be a terror.
OTOH, AnMon seems to have Yace's number. AnMon is a great positional >program. Maybe that is the weakness.
Yace is so new it is funny. Three weeks ago, the author did not even know >about WinBoard. Think about that for a while.
Many new stars on the horizon. Some may surprise you. I also predict great >things for some you may not expect. Even ColChess may grow monster fangs and >begin to eat the weaker species.

Hmm, yace IS strong..I think it will be a automatic choice for me when playing tournaments for the top 10 at Blitz controls..And on my quick tests it's scoring around or slightly below 50% at 5 mins controls against Crafty and Comet ,TCB etc..
The second rank programs like Ant have absolutely no chance against Yace, something like +8-0=2

Strange, If that's the truth Yace will be No1..At Blitz and lightning controls it Already IS a terror..
Goliath gives it some problems as well, the rest of the usual suspects it can handle..
Yace is fast..But it's also a great attacker, reminds me a little of Phanlax actually..I love to watch Yace play blitz..It somehow always manages to play surprising offbeat moves to unbalance the position..If it's not a piece exchange, it's a wild attempt to grab pawns even at the cost of not castling,and it seems to me it likes to create and use passed pawns well..
Hmm, i should try out those 2 against each other..

Amazing..But it was in development for some time as a nonwinboard program for how long?
As usual the winboard community owes you another debt, for bringing in another program into the fold..

Yes..I think Colchess is the fastest improving program for sometime now...