WBEC question /Nimzo

[Peter Berger]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Berger at 24 April 2004 17:08:31:

Why was Nimzo taken out of WBEC?
Is there still some list of engines taken out and reasons?
TIA,
Peter

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 25 April 2004 08:42:39:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC question /Nimzo geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Berger at 24 April 2004 17:08:31:

Why was Nimzo taken out of WBEC?
Is there still some list of engines taken out and reasons?
TIA,
Peter

Hi Peter,
See the link below.
Best wishes,
Leo.


WBNimzo removed

[Michael Scheidl]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Michael Scheidl at 25 April 2004 21:26:22:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC question /Nimzo geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 25 April 2004 08:42:39:

Why was Nimzo taken out of WBEC?

Did these losses on time happen very often?
I cannot claim very big experience with Nimzo2000b, but I've run a few matches in Winboard and also in CM9000's WB supported Tournament Room, and it never crashed or lost on time from the beginning of a game. These games were on shorter time controls than 40/40, but without ponder though.
It is known from other Nimzo Engines that they loose on time quite often, unfortunately, but in a "normal" way at the end of a long game, and typically at short or very short time controls. (I wasn't aware of that about Nimzo2000b yet.)
It's a bit sad IMO when Nimzo shouldn't appear in the WBEC competition, because - being one of the oldest commercial WB engines - I think it is like a kind of "performance barrier" for new professionals which they should cross (comparable to Crafty for the strongest freeware engines).
I just saw Nimzo isn't even included among your engine info page anymore (?!).
Regards,
Mike Scheidl

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 25 April 2004 22:21:12:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC question /Nimzo geschrieben von:/posted by: Michael Scheidl at 25 April 2004 21:26:22:

Why was Nimzo taken out of WBEC?

Did these losses on time happen very often?
I cannot claim very big experience with Nimzo2000b, but I've run a few matches in Winboard and also in CM9000's WB supported Tournament Room, and it never crashed or lost on time from the beginning of a game. These games were on shorter time controls than 40/40, but without ponder though.
It is known from other Nimzo Engines that they loose on time quite often, unfortunately, but in a "normal" way at the end of a long game, and typically at short or very short time controls. (I wasn't aware of that about Nimzo2000b yet.)
It's a bit sad IMO when Nimzo shouldn't appear in the WBEC competition, because - being one of the oldest commercial WB engines - I think it is like a kind of "performance barrier" for new professionals which they should cross (comparable to Crafty for the strongest freeware engines).
I just saw Nimzo isn't even included among your engine info page anymore (?!).
Regards,
Mike Scheidl

It happend mostly short after the last bookmove and 4 to 8 times/68 games.
I agree here and hoped that Rebel should take over that 'job' but unfortunately Ed did not fix it sofar
Its still there, look for "WBNimzo2000"!
Best wishes,
Leo.



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