Terra 3.3 beta11

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 16:24:20:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter


Terra

[Gábor Szõts]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szõts at 06 May 2004 16:47:12:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 16:24:20:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

?? And then??
Regards,
Gábor

[Günther Simon]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Günther Simon at 06 May 2004 16:50:41:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szõts at 06 May 2004 16:47:12:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

?? And then??
Regards,
Gábor

I hope Peter is preparing a new program and won't leave us?
Regards,
Günther

[Matthias Gemuh]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Matthias Gemuh at 06 May 2004 19:14:48:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 16:24:20:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,
will your next engine still use bitboards ?
Regards,
Matthias.


BigLion + Taktix

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 20:42:34:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Matthias Gemuh at 06 May 2004 19:14:48:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,
will your next engine still use bitboards ?
Regards,
Matthias.

Yes, it probably will but not only bitboards as in Terra.
My plan is a hybrid but further tests will give some answers.
Another thing is the automatic tuning that will need more cpu power than I can ever get.
One run will need x weeks of 100% cpu time from my current computer.
One first run that prepares the data will take about 9 weeks of my cpu time.
Later on I will call for help on occupying cpu:s and how to distribute tasks like this to many computers. I have no knowledge about it but I have heard about things like start running when the screen saver goes on.
/Peter


Terra

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 20:43:36:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Günther Simon at 06 May 2004 16:50:41:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

?? And then??
Regards,
Gábor

I hope Peter is preparing a new program and won't leave us?
Regards,
Günther

I will not leave us!
/Peter


Terra

[Joachim Rang]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Joachim Rang at 06 May 2004 21:00:15:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 16:24:20:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

Have you adopted to UCI+ where a "ucinegame" is send from the game, if a new game begins? Older Terraversions were confused by that command.
regards Joachim

[Matthias Gemuh]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Matthias Gemuh at 06 May 2004 21:00:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 20:42:34:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,
will your next engine still use bitboards ?
Regards,
Matthias.

Yes, it probably will but not only bitboards as in Terra.
My plan is a hybrid but further tests will give some answers.
Another thing is the automatic tuning that will need more cpu power than I can ever get.
One run will need x weeks of 100% cpu time from my current computer.
One first run that prepares the data will take about 9 weeks of my cpu time.
Later on I will call for help on occupying cpu:s and how to distribute tasks like this to many computers. I have no knowledge about it but I have heard about things like start running when the screen saver goes on.
/Peter

Wow ! But I doubt that such expensive automatic tuning will help much.
The problem arises when you modify some stuff in Eval(). You would then
have to repeat the whole expensive automatic tuning. Right ?
We are all watching and waiting for outcome of the new approach.
Good Luck,
Matthias.


BigLion + Taktix

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 21:44:28:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Joachim Rang at 06 May 2004 21:00:15:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

Have you adopted to UCI+ where a "ucinegame" is send from the game, if a new game begins? Older Terraversions were confused by that command.
regards Joachim

In fact I haven't but it seems that this version is not confused by UCI+.
If you encounter problems please let me know.
Before the final release I will make sure that UCI+ works and also react to some of the new commands possible.
/Peter


Terra

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 23:21:27:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Matthias Gemuh at 06 May 2004 21:00:42:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,
will your next engine still use bitboards ?
Regards,
Matthias.

Yes, it probably will but not only bitboards as in Terra.
My plan is a hybrid but further tests will give some answers.
Another thing is the automatic tuning that will need more cpu power than I can ever get.
One run will need x weeks of 100% cpu time from my current computer.
One first run that prepares the data will take about 9 weeks of my cpu time.
Later on I will call for help on occupying cpu:s and how to distribute tasks like this to many computers. I have no knowledge about it but I have heard about things like start running when the screen saver goes on.
/Peter

Wow ! But I doubt that such expensive automatic tuning will help much.
The problem arises when you modify some stuff in Eval(). You would then
have to repeat the whole expensive automatic tuning. Right ?
We are all watching and waiting for outcome of the new approach.
Good Luck,
Matthias.

I hope it will help and who is talking about Eval?
You're right of course about changing things but that's more of an academic problem. In practice you don't have to do all of it automatically all the time. One can do manual changes as before.
The automatic stuff can be run when there is a chance to find something useful and also for just a part of the complete set.
I will give a full explanation of all this later on when it's time to start!
/Peter


Terra

[Arturo Ochoa]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Arturo Ochoa at 07 May 2004 05:50:56:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szõts at 06 May 2004 16:47:12:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

?? And then??
Regards,
Gábor

Knowing how Peter works, it is easy to conclude that he has very good ideas for his next engine.
I could only work a short time for Peter, but he showed me that he is very dedicated in solving the reported problems, besides being a very polite and positive person to chat online and discuss different topics.
In a few words: He is a great person and his new engine will be great too.
Good luck with your new engine, Peter!!

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 07 May 2004 10:46:04:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Terra 3.3 beta11 geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 06 May 2004 16:24:20:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 07 May 2004 14:04:27:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Terra 3.3 beta11 for Olympiads ??? geschrieben von:/posted by: Nicolas Normand at 07 May 2004 10:46:04:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,
I think it's a good idea to use this version. I will probably not work on improvements except for bugs, until the final 3.3 version.
/Peter


Terra

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 11 May 2004 08:42:27:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 for Olympiads ??? geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 07 May 2004 14:04:27:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,
I think it's a good idea to use this version. I will probably not work on improvements except for bugs, until the final 3.3 version.
/Peter

hello ,
ok the new version will run a gauntlet and try to get a better rank in the Sweden team ....
The team is up to now the following :
Ruffian , Knigth Dreamer, terra and alarm ..
regards
Nicolas

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 11 May 2004 10:53:23:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 for Olympiads ??? geschrieben von:/posted by: Nicolas Normand at 11 May 2004 08:42:27:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,
I think it's a good idea to use this version. I will probably not work on improvements except for bugs, until the final 3.3 version.
/Peter

hello ,
ok the new version will run a gauntlet and try to get a better rank in the Sweden team ....
The team is up to now the following :
Ruffian , Knigth Dreamer, terra and alarm ..
regards
Nicolas

Trying to make me nervous???
/Peter


Terra

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 11 May 2004 18:22:50:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 for Olympiads ??? geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 11 May 2004 10:53:23:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,
I think it's a good idea to use this version. I will probably not work on improvements except for bugs, until the final 3.3 version.
/Peter

hello ,
ok the new version will run a gauntlet and try to get a better rank in the Sweden team ....
The team is up to now the following :
Ruffian , Knigth Dreamer, terra and alarm ..
regards
Nicolas

Trying to make me nervous???
/Peter

No ,
if you prefer terra can keep his qualification on the third chessboard , and be upgraded without risk !
This is the tournament rule !
The choice is yours ..
Best Regards
Nicolas

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 11 May 2004 18:25:27:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 for Olympiads ??? geschrieben von:/posted by: Nicolas Normand at 11 May 2004 18:22:50:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,
I think it's a good idea to use this version. I will probably not work on improvements except for bugs, until the final 3.3 version.
/Peter

hello ,
ok the new version will run a gauntlet and try to get a better rank in the Sweden team ....
The team is up to now the following :
Ruffian , Knigth Dreamer, terra and alarm ..
regards
Nicolas

Trying to make me nervous???
/Peter

No ,
if you prefer terra can keep his qualification on the third chessboard , and be upgraded without risk !
This is the tournament rule !
The choice is yours ..
Best Regards
Nicolas

Please run a gauntlet and make me nervous!
/Peter


Terra

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 12 May 2004 06:39:01:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Terra 3.3 beta11 for Olympiads ??? geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 11 May 2004 18:25:27:

FYI
This beta version can be downloaded from http://terra.fendrich.se
It's probably the last beta version before releasing version 3.3 and that's probably my last Terra version!
Regards,
Peter

hello peter,
the zonal 6 for northern urope is running with an older version of terra ...
should i wait for your last version ( terra 3.3 ) or should i take now this version ?

regards
Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,
I think it's a good idea to use this version. I will probably not work on improvements except for bugs, until the final 3.3 version.
/Peter

hello ,
ok the new version will run a gauntlet and try to get a better rank in the Sweden team ....
The team is up to now the following :
Ruffian , Knigth Dreamer, terra and alarm ..
regards
Nicolas

Trying to make me nervous???
/Peter

No ,
if you prefer terra can keep his qualification on the third chessboard , and be upgraded without risk !
This is the tournament rule !
The choice is yours ..
Best Regards
Nicolas

Please run a gauntlet and make me nervous!
/Peter

OK ! you'll aksked for this !
the gauntlet will be run just after the completion of zonal 7 !
regards
Nicolas