WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 20 May 2004 16:55:12:

Premier Division:
Round 16:
Amyan 1.593b 1110 3.0/4
Yace 0.99.77 0001 1.0/4
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Aristarch 4.41 0111 3.0/4
WARP 0.58 1000 1.0/4
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The King 3.23 11½1 3.5/4
Crafty 19.12 00½0 0.5/4
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Tao 5.6 ½1 1.5/2 = 2 games to go!
DeepSjeng 1.6 ½0 0.5/2
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2nd Division:
Round 16:
KnightDreamer 3.2 1½10 2.5/4
Betsy 6.51 0½01 1.5/4
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The Baron 1.3.0b3 1½½1 3.0/4
Cerebro 1.24 0½½0 1.0/4
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Ufim 4.04 01½1 2.5/4
Chezzz 1.0.3 10½0 1.5/4
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Crosstables and pgn on the WBEC homepage.
Enginelist, latest updates/new engines:
20/05/2004:
Updated: none found
Best wishes,
Leo.


WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 20 May 2004 17:47:10:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 20 May 2004 16:55:12:

Premier Division:
Round 16:
Amyan 1.593b 1110 3.0/4
Yace 0.99.77 0001 1.0/4
------------------------------------
Aristarch 4.41 0111 3.0/4
WARP 0.58 1000 1.0/4
------------------------------------
The King 3.23 11½1 3.5/4
Crafty 19.12 00½0 0.5/4
------------------------------------
Tao 5.6 ½1 1.5/2 = 2 games to go!
DeepSjeng 1.6 ½0 0.5/2
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It means that deep sjeng1.6 is not going to be the champion because
the king3.23 is going to score more points than it.
The king3.23 scored less than Deep Sjeng1.5 and the question is if it is using better book like slowchess2.89 or has more luck.
Uri

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Norm Pollock at 20 May 2004 19:15:02:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 20 May 2004 16:55:12:

From the wbec site it shows that phalanx and moveii each have 37.5 pts after only 60 games, but have 5 close pursuers. Of the 7 engines, only 3 make the playoffs. A 4-0 victory by phalanx over moveii, or moveii over phalanx would greatly diminish the losing engine's chances for the playoffs. It seems natural that when these 2 engines play each other soon that they should agree to 4 short "grandmaster draws". Splitting the 4 points will most likely get each safely into the playoffs. But will the engines see this human type of logic?

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 20 May 2004 19:44:24:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Norm Pollock at 20 May 2004 19:15:02:

From the wbec site it shows that phalanx and moveii each have 37.5 pts after only 60 games, but have 5 close pursuers. Of the 7 engines, only 3 make the playoffs. A 4-0 victory by phalanx over moveii, or moveii over phalanx would greatly diminish the losing engine's chances for the playoffs. It seems natural that when these 2 engines play each other soon that they should agree to 4 short "grandmaster draws". Splitting the 4 points will most likely get each safely into the playoffs. But will the engines see this human type of logic?

It seems that Amy needs some 4-0 against slowchess in order to promote and in this case 4-0 victory of movei against phalanx together with 3.5-.5 result against Terra is going to be enough for movei to promote.
2-2 is not going to put movei in the safe zone.
After all Terra is a strong opponent and can beat movei in the last round and movei may remain even without the qualification.
I will be disappointed from 2-2 because
Movei already beated phalanx 3-1 in the past
see http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/his4thedition.html
Uri

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Norm Pollock at 20 May 2004 20:00:04:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 20 May 2004 19:44:24:

Uri-
If moveii gets 4 points from phalanx and Terra in any way, it makes the playoffs. Here is why:
Moveii would have 41.5 points. The most KnightDreamer and Amy could get is 41.0. The most Amateur could get is 40. That would leave 4 engines (Movei, Phalanx, TheBaron, Gothmog) for 3 positions.
The Baron could get at most 41.5 points to tie Movei, but Movei now has a 10 point S-B lead that should easily hold up and give Movei the tie-breaker.
-Norm

From the wbec site it shows that phalanx and moveii each have 37.5 pts after only 60 games, but have 5 close pursuers. Of the 7 engines, only 3 make the playoffs. A 4-0 victory by phalanx over moveii, or moveii over phalanx would greatly diminish the losing engine's chances for the playoffs. It seems natural that when these 2 engines play each other soon that they should agree to 4 short "grandmaster draws". Splitting the 4 points will most likely get each safely into the playoffs. But will the engines see this human type of logic?

It seems that Amy needs some 4-0 against slowchess in order to promote and in this case 4-0 victory of movei against phalanx together with 3.5-.5 result against Terra is going to be enough for movei to promote.
2-2 is not going to put movei in the safe zone.
After all Terra is a strong opponent and can beat movei in the last round and movei may remain even without the qualification.
I will be disappointed from 2-2 because
Movei already beated phalanx 3-1 in the past
see http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/his4thedition.html
Uri

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Norm Pollock at 20 May 2004 20:06:32:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 20 May 2004 17:47:10:

The king3.23 scored less than Deep Sjeng1.5 and the question is if it is using better book like slowchess2.89 or has more luck.
Uri

The 7th edition's Premier Division only plays 64 games per engine. The 6th edition's Premier Division played 68 games. In the 6th edition Deep Sjeng had 47.5 points from 68 matches. So far in the 7th edition, The King has 43.0 points from 60 matches. The King can only reach 47.0 points, but the comparison with Deep Sjeng is faulty because less games are being played.

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 20 May 2004 20:41:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Norm Pollock at 20 May 2004 20:00:04:

Uri-
If moveii gets 4 points from phalanx and Terra in any way, it makes the playoffs. Here is why:
Moveii would have 41.5 points. The most KnightDreamer and Amy could get is 41.0. The most Amateur could get is 40. That would leave 4 engines (Movei, Phalanx, TheBaron, Gothmog) for 3 positions.
The Baron could get at most 41.5 points to tie Movei, but Movei now has a 10 point S-B lead that should easily hold up and give Movei the tie-breaker.
-Norm

From the wbec site it shows that phalanx and moveii each have 37.5 pts after only 60 games, but have 5 close pursuers. Of the 7 engines, only 3 make the playoffs. A 4-0 victory by phalanx over moveii, or moveii over phalanx would greatly diminish the losing engine's chances for the playoffs. It seems natural that when these 2 engines play each other soon that they should agree to 4 short "grandmaster draws". Splitting the 4 points will most likely get each safely into the playoffs. But will the engines see this human type of logic?

It seems that Amy needs some 4-0 against slowchess in order to promote and in this case 4-0 victory of movei against phalanx together with 3.5-.5 result against Terra is going to be enough for movei to promote.
2-2 is not going to put movei in the safe zone.
After all Terra is a strong opponent and can beat movei in the last round and movei may remain even without the qualification.
I will be disappointed from 2-2 because
Movei already beated phalanx 3-1 in the past
see http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/his4thedition.html
Uri

In case of a 4-0 between Phalanx and Movei the winner is qualified because he will finish at one of the top 3 ranks! (4-0 means also 150 SB points)
Leo.



WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Claudio Della Corte]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Claudio Della Corte at 20 May 2004 22:17:41:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 20 May 2004 17:47:10:

Premier Division:
Round 16:
Amyan 1.593b 1110 3.0/4
Yace 0.99.77 0001 1.0/4
------------------------------------
Aristarch 4.41 0111 3.0/4
WARP 0.58 1000 1.0/4
------------------------------------
The King 3.23 11½1 3.5/4
Crafty 19.12 00½0 0.5/4
------------------------------------
Tao 5.6 ½1 1.5/2 = 2 games to go!
DeepSjeng 1.6 ½0 0.5/2
------------------------------------

It means that deep sjeng1.6 is not going to be the champion because
the king3.23 is going to score more points than it.
The king3.23 scored less than Deep Sjeng1.5 and the question is if it is using better book like slowchess2.89 or has more luck.

Opponents are different and you have to put some randomness in the actual results, given the engines strength.
Neverthless it's still important to notice that the champion has resigned with more than one round to go. The only goal DeepSjeng can reach is to stop The King and help Ruffian to pass it in the last round.
Regards,
Claudio