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YABRL: Pro Deo about 30 points ahead of Rebel

Postby Robert Allgeuer » 03 Sep 2004, 23:05

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Robert Allgeuer at 04 September 2004 00:05:50:

Pro Deo (with the personality from the 11th of August) scored close to 30 points higher than Rebel, taking it - even though Pro Deo / Rebel is most probably stronger at longer time controls than in Blitz - roughly to the level of Ruffian 1.0.x under the Blitz conditions of YABRL.
Interesting though that Pro Deo did not win in the direct comparison with Rebel, although the match was close.
For exact conditions, platform etc. please refer to the link below. From now on El Chinito will not participate actively in YABRL any longer; next engine is Delfi 4.5.
Robert


    Program                     Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
 01 Chess Tiger 15.0 normal   : 2717   16  25   933    72.1 %   2551   27.9 %
 02 Ruffian v2.1.0            : 2679   16  23  1058    68.9 %   2541   25.9 %
 03 List v5.12                : 2677   17  23   937    67.9 %   2547   27.6 %
 04 Ruffian v2.0.0            : 2673   17  25   900    70.1 %   2525   27.3 %
 05 Ruffian v2.0.2dvbk        : 2672   17  24   894    68.4 %   2538   27.4 %
 06 Ruffian v1.0.1            : 2649   16  22  1015    67.7 %   2520   27.9 %
 07 Pro Deo v1.0 11.Aug.      : 2645   20  27   731    65.1 %   2537   22.2 %
 08 DeepSjeng v1.6ntb         : 2625   18  20  1037    62.1 %   2539   25.5 %
 09 Rebel v12.00.01           : 2617   20  21   908    59.2 %   2553   25.4 %
 10 Ktulu v5.1                : 2613   19  20   907    61.4 %   2533   30.2 %
 11 Aristarch v4.50           : 2611   18  20   997    60.3 %   2538   26.4 %
 12 Thinker v4.6b             : 2601   19  19   931    59.6 %   2534   31.8 %
 13 SmarThink v0.17a          : 2598   18  18  1119    58.5 %   2539   26.9 %
 14 Patriot v1.2.3cpbk        : 2595   19  19   997    58.1 %   2539   27.1 %
 15 Crafty v17.14DC           : 2588   17  15  1282    57.9 %   2533   34.0 %
 16 Ktulu v4.2                : 2586   19  18  1086    57.5 %   2534   24.7 %
 17 Crafty v19.13RA           : 2582   21  19   904    56.9 %   2535   29.6 %
 18 Thinker v4.5b             : 2582   19  16  1055    56.4 %   2538   34.5 %
 19 Ktulu v5.0                : 2582   20  21   943    56.5 %   2536   20.1 %
 20 Aristarch v4.37           : 2581   20  17   959    56.7 %   2534   36.4 %
 21 Crafty v19.06DCntb        : 2580   18  16  1149    56.1 %   2538   30.9 %
 22 Aristarch v4.21           : 2580   18  17  1177    57.2 %   2529   25.2 %
 23 El Chinito v3.25          : 2566   20  17  1080    54.3 %   2537   27.8 %
 24 Wildcat v4.0              : 2565   21  19   899    54.8 %   2531   26.9 %
 25 Delfi v4.3                : 2562   18  16  1240    54.0 %   2534   24.8 %
 26 Delfi v4.2                : 2560   25  25   580    58.1 %   2504   27.2 %
 27 Fruit v1.5                : 2560   23  19   859    52.5 %   2542   25.1 %
 28 SmarThink v0.16b++        : 2558   21  21   836    58.0 %   2503   24.3 %
 29 Crafty-MPC v18.15DC       : 2558   19  16  1217    53.5 %   2534   28.1 %
 30 SoS 3                     : 2557   18  16  1319    53.3 %   2534   23.7 %
 31 Little Goliath 2000 v3.9  : 2557   18  15  1319    53.3 %   2534   26.8 %
 32 Yace Paderborn            : 2556   18  15  1300    53.4 %   2532   27.5 %
 33 Crafty v18.15DC           : 2556   22  22   741    59.0 %   2493   29.0 %
 34 Pepito v1.59 profile      : 2554   18  16  1318    52.8 %   2534   24.1 %
 35 SoS 4                     : 2551   20  17  1098    52.0 %   2537   24.1 %
 36 Aristarch v4.4            : 2547   36  34   319    54.1 %   2518   20.4 %
 37 Yace v0.99.56             : 2541   33  29   380    54.3 %   2511   26.6 %
 38 Little Goliath 2000 v3.5  : 2537   31  25   440    53.6 %   2511   30.9 %
 39 Green Light Chess v3.00   : 2535   19  15  1319    50.1 %   2534   26.6 %
 40 Anmon v5.30               : 2531   16  21  1079    49.1 %   2537   26.3 %
 41 Tao v5.6                  : 2520   18  21  1031    47.0 %   2541   24.6 %
 42 Amyan v1.59               : 2509   16  20  1110    47.7 %   2525   26.8 %
 43 Pharaon v2.62             : 2509   16  19  1219    47.6 %   2525   24.0 %
 44 Crafty v19.01DC           : 2499   24  19   815    50.4 %   2496   25.5 %
 45 LambChop v10.99           : 2493   17  17  1317    44.0 %   2535   22.8 %
 46 Gromit v3.8.2             : 2493   17  17  1291    44.0 %   2534   24.3 %
 47 Ktulu v3.9                : 2490   19  24   779    48.6 %   2500   26.1 %
 48 SlowChess v2.89b          : 2488   18  19  1093    44.4 %   2527   23.6 %
 49 Anmon v5.22               : 2483   19  22   899    46.4 %   2508   26.7 %
 50 Comet B44-2               : 2481   17  17  1239    42.2 %   2535   25.6 %
 51 KnightDreamer v3.2        : 2479   18  17  1220    42.0 %   2535   24.2 %
 52 SoS v11-99                : 2477   33  34   359    46.0 %   2505   17.3 %
 53 Tao v5.4                  : 2475   19  19  1039    44.1 %   2517   21.0 %
 54 Amy v0.8.3                : 2471   19  17  1268    41.2 %   2532   19.1 %
 55 Dragon v4.4.3             : 2467   18  17  1169    40.5 %   2534   25.8 %
 56 Comet B62-3               : 2463   18  17  1219    39.7 %   2535   25.6 %
 57 Francesca M.0.0.9         : 2445   18  15  1318    37.3 %   2535   24.1 %
 58 PostModernist v1.007      : 2439   19  16  1236    36.4 %   2536   23.9 %
 59 Comet B60                 : 2434   22  21   780    41.2 %   2496   25.6 %
 60 Leila v0.53h              : 2427   21  16  1193    35.4 %   2532   20.6 %
 61 Tcb v0045                 : 2419   21  15  1236    33.7 %   2536   23.2 %
 62 Resp v0.19                : 2403   22  15  1220    31.6 %   2536   22.8 %
 63 Arasan v7.4               : 2396   26  17   923    30.7 %   2538   22.5 %
 64 Nejmet v3.07              : 2389   25  18   876    33.2 %   2511   22.3 %
 65 SlowChess v2.78           : 2378   27  19   790    33.5 %   2497   19.6 %
 66 Exchess v4.03             : 2325   28  13  1219    22.8 %   2538   20.6 %
 67 Beowulf v2.2              : 2304   31  13  1200    21.6 %   2529   17.3 %

Games        :  34160 (finished)
White Wins   :  13966 (40.9 %)
Black Wins   :  11474 (33.6 %)
Draws        :   8720 (25.5 %)
Unfinished   :      0
White Perf.  : 53.6 %
Black Perf.  : 46.4 %
ECO A =   5025 Games (14.7 %)
ECO B =  10168 Games (29.8 %)
ECO C =   6446 Games (18.9 %)
ECO D =   6309 Games (18.5 %)
ECO E =   6212 Games (18.2 %)

(7) Pro Deo v1.0 11.Aug.      : 731 (+395,=162,-174), 65.1 %
Chess Tiger 15.0 normal       :  19 (+  4,=  5,- 10), 34.2 %
Ruffian v2.1.0                :  20 (+  8,=  5,-  7), 52.5 %
List v5.12                    :  19 (+  5,=  4,- 10), 36.8 %
DeepSjeng v1.6ntb             :  20 (+  8,=  6,-  6), 55.0 %
Rebel v12.00.01               :  15 (+  7,=  0,-  8), 46.7 %
Aristarch v4.50               :  20 (+  9,=  8,-  3), 65.0 %
Patriot v1.2.3cpbk            :  20 (+  7,=  9,-  4), 57.5 %
SmarThink v0.17a              :  20 (+  8,=  2,- 10), 45.0 %
Ktulu v5.1                    :  12 (+  9,=  1,-  2), 79.2 %
Crafty v17.14DC               :  20 (+  4,=  5,- 11), 32.5 %
Thinker v4.6b                 :  20 (+  4,=  5,- 11), 32.5 %
Crafty v19.06DCntb            :  16 (+  9,=  2,-  5), 62.5 %
Crafty v19.13RA               :  18 (+ 12,=  2,-  4), 72.2 %
Delfi v4.3                    :  20 (+ 15,=  2,-  3), 80.0 %
El Chinito v3.25              :  20 (+ 11,=  4,-  5), 65.0 %
Crafty-MPC v18.15DC           :  20 (+ 12,=  5,-  3), 72.5 %
Little Goliath 2000 v3.9      :  20 (+ 15,=  2,-  3), 80.0 %
SoS 3                         :  20 (+  7,=  7,-  6), 52.5 %
Pepito v1.59 profile          :  19 (+ 14,=  1,-  4), 76.3 %
Fruit v1.5                    :  20 (+  9,=  2,-  9), 50.0 %
Yace Paderborn                :  20 (+ 10,=  9,-  1&#4
Robert Allgeuer
 

Re: YABRL: Pro Deo about 30 points ahead of Rebel

Postby Heinz van Kempen » 03 Sep 2004, 23:45

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 04 September 2004 00:45:51:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: YABRL: Pro Deo about 30 points ahead of Rebel geschrieben von:/posted by: Robert Allgeuer at 04 September 2004 00:05:50:
Pro Deo (with the personality from the 11th of August) scored close to 30 points higher than Rebel, taking it - even though Pro Deo / Rebel is most probably stronger at longer time controls than in Blitz - roughly to the level of Ruffian 1.0.x under the Blitz conditions of YABRL.
Interesting though that Pro Deo did not win in the direct comparison with Rebel, although the match was close.
For exact conditions, platform etc. please refer to the link below. From now on El Chinito will not participate actively in YABRL any longer; next engine is Delfi 4.5.
Robert


>    Program                     Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
> 01 Chess Tiger 15.0 normal   : 2717   16  25   933    72.1 %   2551   27.9 %
> 02 Ruffian v2.1.0            : 2679   16  23  1058    68.9 %   2541   25.9 %
> 03 List v5.12                : 2677   17  23   937    67.9 %   2547   27.6 %
> 04 Ruffian v2.0.0            : 2673   17  25   900    70.1 %   2525   27.3 %
> 05 Ruffian v2.0.2dvbk        : 2672   17  24   894    68.4 %   2538   27.4 %
> 06 Ruffian v1.0.1            : 2649   16  22  1015    67.7 %   2520   27.9 %
> 07 Pro Deo v1.0 11.Aug.      : 2645   20  27   731    65.1 %   2537   22.2 %
> 08 DeepSjeng v1.6ntb         : 2625   18  20  1037    62.1 %   2539   25.5 %
> 09 Rebel v12.00.01           : 2617   20  21   908    59.2 %   2553   25.4 %
> 10 Ktulu v5.1                : 2613   19  20   907    61.4 %   2533   30.2 %
> 11 Aristarch v4.50           : 2611   18  20   997    60.3 %   2538   26.4 %
> 12 Thinker v4.6b             : 2601   19  19   931    59.6 %   2534   31.8 %
> 13 SmarThink v0.17a          : 2598   18  18  1119    58.5 %   2539   26.9 %
> 14 Patriot v1.2.3cpbk        : 2595   19  19   997    58.1 %   2539   27.1 %
> 15 Crafty v17.14DC           : 2588   17  15  1282    57.9 %   2533   34.0 %
> 16 Ktulu v4.2                : 2586   19  18  1086    57.5 %   2534   24.7 %
> 17 Crafty v19.13RA           : 2582   21  19   904    56.9 %   2535   29.6 %
> 18 Thinker v4.5b             : 2582   19  16  1055    56.4 %   2538   34.5 %
> 19 Ktulu v5.0                : 2582   20  21   943    56.5 %   2536   20.1 %
> 20 Aristarch v4.37           : 2581   20  17   959    56.7 %   2534   36.4 %
> 21 Crafty v19.06DCntb        : 2580   18  16  1149    56.1 %   2538   30.9 %
> 22 Aristarch v4.21           : 2580   18  17  1177    57.2 %   2529   25.2 %
> 23 El Chinito v3.25          : 2566   20  17  1080    54.3 %   2537   27.8 %
> 24 Wildcat v4.0              : 2565   21  19   899    54.8 %   2531   26.9 %
> 25 Delfi v4.3                : 2562   18  16  1240    54.0 %   2534   24.8 %
> 26 Delfi v4.2                : 2560   25  25   580    58.1 %   2504   27.2 %
> 27 Fruit v1.5                : 2560   23  19   859    52.5 %   2542   25.1 %
> 28 SmarThink v0.16b++        : 2558   21  21   836    58.0 %   2503   24.3 %
> 29 Crafty-MPC v18.15DC       : 2558   19  16  1217    53.5 %   2534   28.1 %
> 30 SoS 3                     : 2557   18  16  1319    53.3 %   2534   23.7 %
> 31 Little Goliath 2000 v3.9  : 2557   18  15  1319    53.3 %   2534   26.8 %
> 32 Yace Paderborn            : 2556   18  15  1300    53.4 %   2532   27.5 %
> 33 Crafty v18.15DC           : 2556   22  22   741    59.0 %   2493   29.0 %
> 34 Pepito v1.59 profile      : 2554   18  16  1318    52.8 %   2534   24.1 %
> 35 SoS 4                     : 2551   20  17  1098    52.0 %   2537   24.1 %
> 36 Aristarch v4.4            : 2547   36  34   319    54.1 %   2518   20.4 %
> 37 Yace v0.99.56             : 2541   33  29   380    54.3 %   2511   26.6 %
> 38 Little Goliath 2000 v3.5  : 2537   31  25   440    53.6 %   2511   30.9 %
> 39 Green Light Chess v3.00   : 2535   19  15  1319    50.1 %   2534   26.6 %
> 40 Anmon v5.30               : 2531   16  21  1079    49.1 %   2537   26.3 %
> 41 Tao v5.6                  : 2520   18  21  1031    47.0 %   2541   24.6 %
> 42 Amyan v1.59               : 2509   16  20  1110    47.7 %   2525   26.8 %
> 43 Pharaon v2.62             : 2509   16  19  1219    47.6 %   2525   24.0 %
> 44 Crafty v19.01DC           : 2499   24  19   815    50.4 %   2496   25.5 %
> 45 LambChop v10.99           : 2493   17  17  1317    44.0 %   2535   22.8 %
> 46 Gromit v3.8.2             : 2493   17  17  1291    44.0 %   2534   24.3 %
> 47 Ktulu v3.9                : 2490   19  24   779    48.6 %   2500   26.1 %
> 48 SlowChess v2.89b          : 2488   18  19  1093    44.4 %   2527   23.6 %
> 49 Anmon v5.22               : 2483   19  22   899    46.4 %   2508   26.7 %
> 50 Comet B44-2               : 2481   17  17  1239    42.2 %   2535   25.6 %
> 51 KnightDreamer v3.2        : 2479   18  17  1220    42.0 %   2535   24.2 %
> 52 SoS v11-99                : 2477   33  34   359    46.0 %   2505   17.3 %
> 53 Tao v5.4                  : 2475   19  19  1039    44.1 %   2517   21.0 %
> 54 Amy v0.8.3                : 2471   19  17  1268    41.2 %   2532   19.1 %
> 55 Dragon v4.4.3             : 2467   18  17  1169    40.5 %   2534   25.8 %
> 56 Comet B62-3               : 2463   18  17  1219    39.7 %   2535   25.6 %
> 57 Francesca M.0.0.9         : 2445   18  15  1318    37.3 %   2535   24.1 %
> 58 PostModernist v1.007      : 2439   19  16  1236    36.4 %   2536   23.9 %
> 59 Comet B60                 : 2434   22  21   780    41.2 %   2496   25.6 %
> 60 Leila v0.53h              : 2427   21  16  1193    35.4 %   2532   20.6 %
> 61 Tcb v0045                 : 2419   21  15  1236    33.7 %   2536   23.2 %
> 62 Resp v0.19                : 2403   22  15  1220    31.6 %   2536   22.8 %
> 63 Arasan v7.4               : 2396   26  17   923    30.7 %   2538   22.5 %
> 64 Nejmet v3.07              : 2389   25  18   876    33.2 %   2511   22.3 %
> 65 SlowChess v2.78           : 2378   27  19   790    33.5 %   2497   19.6 %
> 66 Exchess v4.03             : 2325   28  13  1219    22.8 %   2538   20.6 %
> 67 Beowulf v2.2              : 2304   31  13  1200    21.6 %   2529   17.3 %
>
>Games        :  34160 (finished)
>White Wins   :  13966 (40.9 %)
>Black Wins   :  11474 (33.6 %)
>Draws        :   8720 (25.5 %)
>Unfinished   :      0
>White Perf.  : 53.6 %
>Black Perf.  : 46.4 %
>ECO A =   5025 Games (14.7 %)
>ECO B =  10168 Games (29.8 %)
>ECO C =   6446 Games (18.9 %)
>ECO D =   6309 Games (18.5 %)
>ECO E =   6212 Games (18.2 %)
>
>(7) Pro Deo v1.0 11.Aug.      : 731 (+395,=162,-174), 65.1 %
>Chess Tiger 15.0 normal       :  19 (+  4,=  5,- 10), 34.2 %
>Ruffian v2.1.0                :  20 (+  8,=  5,-  7), 52.5 %
>List v5.12                    :  19 (+  5,=  4,- 10), 36.8 %
>DeepSjeng v1.6ntb             :  20 (+  8,=  6,-  6), 55.0 %
>Rebel v12.00.01               :  15 (+  7,=  0,-  8), 46.7 %
>Aristarch v4.50               :  20 (+  9,=  8,-  3), 65.0 %
>Patriot v1.2.3cpbk            :  20 (+  7,=  9,-  4), 57.5 %
>SmarThink v0.17a              :  20 (+  8,=  2,- 10), 45.0 %
>Ktulu v5.1                    :  12 (+  9,=  1,-  2), 79.2 %
>Crafty v17.14DC               :  20 (+  4,=  5,- 11), 32.5 %
>Thinker v4.6b                 :  20 (+  4,=  5,- 11), 32.5 %
>Crafty v19.06DCntb            :  16 (+  9,=  2,-  5), 62.5 %
>Crafty v19.13RA               :  18 (+ 12,=  2,-  4), 72.2 %
>Delfi v4.3                    :  20 (+ 15,=  2,-  3), 80.0 %
>El Chinito v3.25              :  20 (+ 11,=  4,-  5), 65.0 %
>Crafty-MPC v18.15DC           :  20 (+ 12,=  5,-  3), 72.5 %
>Little Goliath 2000 v3.9      :  20 (+ 15,=  2,-  3), 80.0 %
>SoS 3                         :  20 (+  7,=  7,-  6), 52.5 %
>Pepito v1.59 profile          :  19 (+ 14,=  1,-  4), 76
Heinz van Kempen
 

Re: YABRL: Pro Deo about 30 points ahead of Rebel

Postby Robert Allgeuer » 04 Sep 2004, 07:41

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Robert Allgeuer at 04 September 2004 08:41:06:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: YABRL: Pro Deo about 30 points ahead of Rebel geschrieben von:/posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 04 September 2004 00:45:51:

Hi Robert,
a good result for Pro Deo and maybe it will soon be the best free engine. You will have noticed that Ed a few days ago posted new settings that according to test might give 10-15 ELO more. But such a difference is not easy to prove.
And additionally there will be more discussion that Pro Deo might be better with more time compared to other engines, what in my opinion is very well possible.
This year with all the advances and new engines is a fantastic one for computer chess enthusiasts. And watching the games is a lot of fun. There was unbelievable suspense today when watching live Günther´s last round in Class B. And we saw that even with more time a game can turn around more than once, even when strong engines are playing (Movei vs. Deep Patzer).
Best Regards
Heinz
Maybe ProDeo is the best free engine at longer time controls already, given how close it is already in Blitz. At least List is a Blitz expert and is comparatively weaker at longer time controls.
yes, thanks, I have seen that Ed Schröder has posted a new personality for Rebel (1. Sep.), I would have used this personality of course, but at this time I had already completed the gauntlet with the 11. Aug. version. I agree that proving a difference between the two would be difficult, I wonder how Ed did it in his own testing.
Robert



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