shredder9 interface cannot be trusted

[Uri Blass]

I played a match of 100 games between glaurung and Movei FRC at 1 minutes/40 moves

Result was 74-26 for glaurung and if I adjudicate winning on time based on the position it is 76-24 or 75.5-24.5 for glaurung.

Movei still does not support tablebases as UCI engine so it did not use them.

1)Glaurung drew a game against Movei but shredder's interface decided that movei lost on time(based on the chess rules even if movei really lose on time it is a draw).

2)Note that glaurng also lost 3 games on time and it seems that shredder9's interface even cannot count time correctly

Based on the logfile it seems that shredder has fun of stealing time from engines.


Here is the game that movei lost on time and later the games that glaurung lost on time.



[Event "40 Moves in 1 min"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2006.09.25"]
[Round "76"]
[White "Glaurung 1.2.1"]
[Black "Movei 365"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "nnbbqrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/NNBBQRKR w HFhf -"]

1. e4 {+0.18/13 3s} e5 {-0.18/10 1s} 2. d3 {+0.23/12 3s}
Nb6 {-0.08/10 1s} 3. f4 {+0.37/12 3s} d6 {-0.11/9 2s}
4. Nb3 {+0.39/11 3s} Be6 {-0.32/9 2s} 5. fxe5 {+0.56/11 4s}
Bxb3 {-0.44/9 1s} 6. axb3 {+0.48/10 1s} Qxe5 {-0.27/9 0s}
7. Rf5 {+0.62/11 3s} Qd4+ {-0.24/9 1s} 8. Qe3 {+0.68/12 1s}
Nc6 {-0.33/9 4s} 9. O-O {+0.60/12 1s} g6 {-0.30/8 1s}
10. Qxd4 {+0.90/13 1s} Nxd4 {-0.51/10 0s} 11. Ra5 {+0.87/12
1s} Nc6 {-0.63/10 1s} 12. Ra1 {+0.76/11 1s} f5 {-0.63/9 1s}
13. Bh6 {+1.35/11 1s} Rf6 {-0.95/10 2s} 14. exf5 {+1.51/12
2s} gxf5 {-1.06/9 0s} 15. Bg5 {+1.70/11 1s} Rf8 {-1.18/10
1s} 16. Bh6 {+1.60/12 1s} Rf6 {0.00/15 2s} 17. Bd2
{+1.59/11 1s} d5 {-1.13/9 1s} 18. Bf3 {+1.50/10 0s} Rd6
{-1.01/9 1s} 19. Nc3 {+1.40/9 0s} Bf6 {-0.85/9 1s} 20. Nb5
{+1.46/9 0s} Rd7 {-0.87/9 1s} 21. Nxa7 {+1.48/10 1s} Bxb2
{-1.14/10 1s} 22. Ra2 {+1.46/11 0s} Bd4+ {-1.17/9 1s}
23. Kh1 {+1.54/8 0s} O-O {-1.22/9 1s} 24. Nxc6 {+1.75/12
1s} bxc6 {-1.22/10 1s} 25. c3 {+1.71/11 1s} Be5 {-1.20/9
0s} 26. b4 {+1.78/10 1s} Re7 {-0.88/9 0s} 27. Bh5 {+1.75/10
0s} f4 {-0.90/9 0s} 28. Re1 {+1.65/10 1s} Bd6 {-0.70/10 1s}
29. Rxe7 {+1.64/11 0s} Bxe7 {-0.68/11 1s} 30. Ra7 {+1.46/11
1s} Bd6 {-0.62/10 1s} 31. Bc1 {+1.37/11 0s} Nd7 {-0.31/8
1s} 32. Ra5 {+1.09/10 1s} Kg7 {-0.16/8 0s} 33. Kg1
{+1.04/10 0s} Rb8 {-0.28/9 2s} 34. Bb2 {+0.95/9 0s} c5
{-0.17/8 1s} 35. Be2 {+0.68/9 0s} cxb4 {0.00/8 1s} 36. Rxd5
{+0.70/9 0s} Kf7 {-0.08/8 1s} 37. cxb4 {+0.90/9 0s} Rxb4
{0.00/9 1s} 38. Bc3 {+0.70/9 0s} Rb3 {0.00/9 1s} 39. Be1
{+0.29/8 0s} Nf6 {+0.57/9 2s} 40. Rf5 {-0.57/7 0s} Kg6
{+2.13/9 0s} 41. g4 {-1.48/13 2s} fxg3 {+2.50/10 1s}
42. Rf1 {-1.68/13 3s} gxh2+ {+2.39/9 1s} 43. Kh1 {-1.62/13
2s} Be5 {+2.40/9 1s} 44. Bf2 {-1.51/12 3s} Rb2 {+2.34/10
2s} 45. Bf3 {-1.53/12 1s} Rd2 {+2.35/10 3s} 46. Bh4
{-1.57/13 2s} Kg7 {+2.40/9 1s} 47. Rd1 {-1.50/13 5s} Rxd1+
{+2.37/11 2s} 48. Bxd1 {-1.51/12 0s} Nd5 {+2.39/11 1s}
49. Bf3 {-1.40/15 2s} c6 {+2.32/11 1s} 50. Bf2 {-1.42/14
2s} Kf6 {+2.30/10 1s} 51. Bc5 {-1.43/13 1s} Bc7 {+2.23/10
1s} 52. Bd1 {-1.43/13 2s} Nf4 {+2.38/10 1s} 53. Bc2
{-1.32/12 1s} Ke6 {+2.34/10 3s} 54. d4 {-1.40/12 1s} Nh3
{+2.38/11 1s} 55. Bb3+ {-1.40/14 1s} Kf5 {+2.44/12 1s}
56. d5 {-1.40/14 1s} cxd5 {+2.43/11 1s} 57. Bxd5 {-1.42/13
1s} Ng5 {+2.36/10 0s} 58. Be3 {-1.42/13 1s} Ne4 {+2.52/11
1s} 59. Bxe4+ {0.00/12 0s} Kxe4 {+2.95/12 0s} 60. Bc1
{0.00/14 0s} h5 {+2.97/12 1s} 61. Kg2 {0.00/15 1s} Be5
{+3.20/12 1s} 62. Ba3 {0.00/14 0s} Kd5 {+3.23/12 1s}
63. Bc1 {0.00/15 0s} Ke6 {+3.20/11 0s} 64. Ba3 {0.00/16 1s}
h4 {+3.20/12 0s} 65. Bc1 {0.00/16 1s} Kf6 {+3.20/12 1s}
66. Ba3 {0.00/16 1s} Kf7 {+3.20/12 1s} 67. Bc1 {0.00/18 1s}
Ke6 {+3.20/12 1s} 68. Ba3 {0.00/17 0s} Kf6 {+3.20/12 1s}
69. Bc1 {0.00/18 0s} Kf5 {+3.10/12 1s} 70. Ba3 {0.00/17 1s}
Bg3 {+2.96/11 1s} 71. Bc1 {0.00/18 0s} Bb8 {+2.96/11 1s}
72. Ba3 {0.00/19 1s} Be5 {+3.03/11 1s} 73. Bc1 {0.00/19 1s}
Kg6 {+2.96/12 1s} 74. Ba3 {0.00/19 0s} Kg5 {+3.20/11 1s}
75. Bc1+ {0.00/21 1s} Kh5 {+2.97/13 1s} 76. Ba3 {0.00/20
0s} Bb8 {+2.96/11 1s} 77. Bc1 {0.00/23 1s} Kg6 {+2.97/12
1s} 78. Ba3 {0.00/21 1s} Bc7 {+2.99/10 0s} 79. Bc1 {0.00/21
0s} Kh5 {+2.96/12 1s} 80. Ba3 {0.00/21 0s} Be5 {+2.99/12
0s} 81. Bc1 {0.00/24 2s} Bg3 {+2.93/13 2s} 82. Ba3 {0.00/24
3s} Kg5 {+2.96/13 2s} 83. Bc1+ {0.00/23 2s} Kg4 {+2.96/13
1s} 84. Ba3 {0.00/24 2s} Bb8 {+2.96/12 1s} 85. Bc1 {0.00/26
2s} Bc7 {+2.96/13 2s} 86. Ba3 {0.00/25 2s} Be5 {+2.96/12
1s} 87. Bc1 {0.00/27 2s} Bb8 {+2.96/13 2s} 88. Ba3 {0.00/26
2s} Bf4 {+2.93/12 1s} 89. Bc1 {0.00/28 2s} h3+ {+5.83/12
2s} 90. Kh1 {0.00/31 1s} Bxc1 {+5.81/12 1s} 91. Kxh2
{0.00/5 0s} Be3 {+5.81/11 2s} 92. Kh1 {0.00/5 0s} Bf4
{+5.81/12 5s} 93. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Be5 {+5.81/11 2s} 94. Kh1
{0.00/33 1s} Kh5 {+5.83/11 3s} 95. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Kh4
{+5.81/11 3s} 96. Kh1 {0.00/40 1s} Kg3 {+5.83/11 3s}
97. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bh8 {+5.81/11 1s} 98. Kh1 {0.00/45 0s}
Bc3 {+5.83/11 1s} 99. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Be5 {+5.81/11 1s}
100. Kh1 {0.00/46 1s} Bb2 {+5.83/11 1s} 101. Kg1 {0.00/5
0s} Bc1 {+5.81/11 0s} 102. Kh1 {0.00/51 1s} Bd2 {+5.83/11
1s} 103. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bg5 {+5.81/11 1s} 104. Kh1
{0.00/56 1s} Bf6 {+5.83/11 1s} 105. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Be7
{+5.81/11 0s} 106. Kh1 {0.00/60 1s} Bf8 {+5.83/10 0s}
107. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bd6 {+5.81/10 0s} 108. Kh1 {0.00/60
1s} Be7 {+5.83/10 0s} 109. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bf8 {+5.81/10
0s} 110. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bg7 {+5.83/10 0s} 111. Kg1
{0.00/5 0s} Bh6 {+5.81/10 0s} 112. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bc1
{+5.83/11 1s} 113. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bd2 {+5.81/10 0s}
114. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bg5 {+5.83/10 0s} 115. Kg1 {0.00/5
0s} Bf4 {+5.81/10 0s} 116. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bd6 {+5.83/10
0s} 117. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bc7 {+5.83/9 0s} 118. Kh1 {0.00/60
0s} Ba5 {+5.81/9 0s} 119. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bd8 {+5.83/9 0s}
120. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Kg4 {+5.81/9 0s} 121. Kh2 {0.00/60
0s} Bc7+ {+5.81/12 3s} 122. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Kg3 {+5.81/12
6s} 123. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Ba5 {+5.83/13 4s} 124. Kh1
{0.00/60 0s} Bb4 {+5.83/13 6s} 125. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bc5+
{+5.81/13 3s} 126. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Ba3 {+5.81/13 2s}
127. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bb4 {+5.83/13 3s} 128. Kh1 {0.00/60
0s} Be1 {+5.81/13 3s} 129. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Kh4 {+5.81/13
3s} 130. Kh2 {0.00/60 0s} Bb4 {+5.81/11 2s} 131. Kh1
{0.00/60 0s} Kg4 {+5.81/11 2s} 132. Kh2 {0.00/60 0s} Bd6+
{+5.81/11 1s} 133. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bf8 {+5.81/10 1s}
134. Kh2 {0.00/60 0s} Ba3 {+5.81/11 1s} 135. Kh1 {0.00/60
0s} Bd6 {+5.70/10 0s} 136. Kg1 {0.00/5 0s} Bf4 {+5.66/10
1s} 137. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Kf3 {+5.65/11 1s} 138. Kg1
{0.00/5 0s} Ke3 {+5.60/12 0s} 139. Kh1 {0.00/32 0s} h2
{+5.65/12 0s} 140. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Ke4 {+5.66/11 0s}
141. Kh1 {0.00/60 1s} Kf5 {+5.60/11 0s} 142. Kg2 {0.00/5
0s} Kg4 {+5.66/11 0s} 143. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bb8 {+5.60/11
0s} 144. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Bc7 {+5.66/11 0s} 145. Kh1
{0.00/60 0s} Bd6 {+5.60/11 0s} 146. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Bb8
{+5.66/11 0s} 147. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Bc7 {+5.60/11 0s}
148. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Kg5 {+5.66/11 0s} 149. Kh1 {0.00/60
0s} Bd6 {+5.60/10 0s} 150. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Be5 {+5.65/10
0s} 151. Kh1 {0.00/60 2s} Kh5 {+5.60/10 0s} 152. Kg2
{0.00/5 0s} Kh6 {+5.65/10 0s} 153. Kh1 {0.00/60 0s} Kg7
{+5.60/10 0s} 154. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Kg6 {+5.60/9 0s}
155. Kh1 {0.00/60 1s} Bb8 {+5.66/9 0s} 156. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s}
Kg5 {+5.60/9 0s} 157. Kh1 {0.00/60 1s} Bg3 {+5.66/9 0s}
158. Kg2 {0.00/5 0s} Kg6 {+5.60/8 0s} 159. Kh1 {0.00/60 1s
time} 1-0


[Event "40 Moves in 1 min"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2006.09.25"]
[Round "98"]
[White "Glaurung 1.2.1"]
[Black "Movei 365"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bbnnrqkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BBNNRQKR w HEhe -"]

1. Nd3 {+0.17/12 4s} e5 {-0.13/10 4s} 2. e4 {+0.09/11 3s}
c5 {-0.13/8 1s} 3. b3 {+0.06/11 3s} b5 {-0.10/9 1s} 4. a4
{+0.03/11 4s} bxa4 {+0.26/10 1s} 5. bxa4 {-0.25/11 1s} Nb6
{+0.37/9 1s} 6. Nc3 {-0.10/11 1s} Bc6 {+0.31/8 0s} 7. a5
{-0.03/11 1s} Nc4 {+0.27/11 1s} 8. Ba2 {-0.15/12 2s} Nxa5
{+0.31/9 1s} 9. Nd5 {-0.04/11 1s} c4 {+0.41/8 1s} 10. Nb2
{+0.01/11 2s} Qc5 {+0.36/9 1s} 11. Nxc4 {+0.18/11 2s} Bxd5
{+0.30/9 1s} 12. exd5 {+0.37/11 1s} Qxd5 {+0.09/9 1s}
13. Bc3 {+0.34/11 1s} Bc7 {+0.10/9 1s} 14. Ra1 {+0.40/11
1s} Nxc4 {+0.09/9 0s} 15. Bxc4 {+0.39/11 1s} Qc5 {+0.27/9
1s} 16. Qd3 {+0.42/11 1s} d6 {+0.27/8 1s} 17. Qd5 {+0.37/11
2s} Bb6 {+0.49/8 1s} 18. Qxc5 {+0.10/12 1s} Bxc5 {+0.52/7
1s} 19. Bb5 {+0.04/11 0s} Re7 {+0.71/8 0s} 20. O-O
{+0.07/11 0s} O-O {+0.74/6 0s} 21. Ba6 {-0.04/11 1s} Ne6
{+0.93/9 0s} 22. Rfb1 {-0.18/10 0s} Nf4 {+0.91/9 1s}
23. Ra4 {-0.09/9 0s} Re6 {+0.83/8 1s} 24. Kf1 {-0.31/10 1s}
Nd5 {+1.04/9 1s} 25. Ba5 {-0.23/11 1s} Rh6 {+1.20/9 1s}
26. h4 {-0.25/10 0s} g5 {+1.23/9 1s} 27. g3 {-0.43/10 0s}
Rf6 {+1.34/9 1s} 28. Rg4 {-0.43/9 0s} Rxf2+ {+1.39/9 1s}
29. Ke1 {-0.50/11 0s} Kh8 {+1.61/10 2s} 30. Rxg5 {-0.67/10
1s} h6 {+1.52/9 1s} 31. Rg4 {-0.98/11 0s} Nf6 {+1.86/9 1s}
32. Ra4 {-1.14/11 0s} Rg2 {+2.30/10 1s} 33. Rb3 {-1.25/10
0s} Rg1+ {+2.26/9 1s} 34. Ke2 {-1.04/11 0s} Nh5 {+2.06/10
2s} 35. g4 {-1.12/10 1s} Ng3+ {+2.05/8 1s} 36. Kd3
{-0.87/11 0s} Rh1 {+1.79/7 0s} 37. Kc4 {-0.43/10 0s} Ne2
{+1.86/10 1s} 38. Kd5 {-0.82/9 0s} Nd4 {+1.58/10 1s}
39. Rb7 {-0.57/10 0s} Rxh4 {+1.89/9 1s} 40. Bc7 {-0.48/7
0s} Nxc2 {+1.98/8 1s} 41. Bxd6 {-1.14/12 2s} Bxd6 {+2.31/10
2s} 42. Kxd6 {-1.42/12 3s} Nd4 {+2.30/9 1s} 43. Kxe5
{-1.39/11 2s} Rxg4 {+2.20/8 1s} 44. Rc4 {-1.73/10 3s} Re8+
{+2.43/8 1s} 45. Kd5 {-2.31/12 1s} Rd8+ {+2.43/7 0s}
46. Kc5 {-2.07/12 1s} Rg5+ {+2.45/9 1s} 47. Kb4 {-1.62/5
0s} Rg6 {+2.45/9 2s} 48. Bb5 {-2.26/11 1s} a5+ {+2.40/8 2s}
49. Kxa5 {-2.29/12 1s} Rg5 {+2.41/9 2s} 50. Kb4 {-2.32/13
2s} Nxb5 {+2.49/9 1s} 51. Rxb5 {-2.40/13 1s} Rxb5+
{+2.49/10 2s} 52. Kxb5 {-2.37/10 0s} Rxd2 {+2.48/11 2s}
53. Kb4 {-2.46/12 4s} Kg7 {+2.59/10 1s} 54. Kc3 {-2.48/11
1s} Rd7 {+2.62/10 2s} 55. Rf4 {-2.53/11 1s} h5 {+2.58/10
1s} 56. Rf1 {-2.65/12 1s} Kh6 {+2.81/10 1s} 57. Rh1
{-2.73/12 3s} Rd6 {+2.69/11 3s} 58. Rf1 {-2.45/12 1s} f6
{+2.56/10 1s} 59. Kc4 {-2.48/12 0s} h4 {+2.65/10 0s}
60. Kc5 {-2.64/12 1s} Ra6 {+2.67/10 1s} 61. Kd5 {-2.71/11
1s} Ra5+ {+2.78/9 1s} 62. Ke4 {-2.54/11 0s} Kg6 {+2.88/10
1s} 63. Rg1+ {-2.57/11 1s} Kf7 {+2.88/9 0s} 64. Rg2
{-2.31/10 1s} Ke6 {+2.94/9 1s} 65. Rc2 {-2.35/11 1s} f5+
{+2.88/9 1s} 66. Kf4 {-2.17/11 0s} Ra4+ {+2.78/10 1s}
67. Kf3 {-2.14/12 1s} Ra6 {+2.74/9 1s} 68. Kf4 {-2.17/11
1s} Kf6 {+2.74/9 0s} 69. Rc8 {-2.14/11 1s} Ra4+ {+2.70/9
0s} 70. Kf3 {-2.14/12 1s} h3 {+2.67/9 1s} 71. Rh8 {-2.07/11
1s} Ke5 {+2.45/9 1s} 72. Re8+ {-1.97/11 0s} Kd6 {+2.02/9
0s} 73. Kg3 {-2.00/11 1s} Ra3+ {+2.50/9 1s} 74. Kf4
{-2.05/12 0s} Ra1 {+2.58/9 0s} 75. Rd8+ {-2.01/11 1s} Ke6
{+2.50/10 1s} 76. Rh8 {-2.03/11 1s} Rf1+ {+2.31/9 2s}
77. Kg3 {-1.46/11 0s} Rh1 {+2.04/9 1s} 78. Re8+ {-1.39/11
0s} Kd5 {+1.42/9 1s} 79. Rd8+ {-0.89/12 0s} Ke4 {+1.40/9
0s} 80. Re8+ {-0.89/12 0s} Kd4 {+1.40/9 0s} 81. Rd8+
{-0.77/14 3s} Ke5 {+1.19/11 3s} 82. Re8+ {-0.59/13 2s} Kd6
{+1.20/11 1s} 83. Rd8+ {-0.59/14 3s} Ke7 {+1.20/10 1s}
84. Rh8 {-0.59/14 2s} Kf6 {+1.13/10 2s} 85. Rf8+ {-0.42/14
2s} Kg6 {+1.06/10 0s} 86. Rh8 {-0.42/14 1s} Rd1 {+0.90/9
1s} 87. Rxh3 {0.00/14 2s} Kg5 {+0.86/10 2s} 88. Kg2
{0.00/15 2s} Rd2+ {+1.29/10 1s} 89. Kg1 {0.00/17 2s} Kg4
{+1.31/11 3s} 90. Ra3 {0.00/17 2s} f4 {+1.31/11 3s} 91. Rc3
{0.00/16 1s} Re2 {+1.40/10 1s} 92. Kf1 {0.00/17 1s} Rb2
{+1.29/10 1s} 93. Kg1 {0.00/16 1s} f3 {+1.38/10 1s} 94. Rc8
{0.00/15 1s} Kg3 {+1.37/9 1s} 95. Rg8+ {0.00/16 1s} Kf4
{+0.73/11 1s} 96. Re8 {0.00/15 1s} Ra2 {+1.36/10 1s}
97. Kf1 {0.00/15 1s} Rc2 {+0.96/9 1s} 98. Ra8 {0.00/14 1s}
Rb2 {+0.96/9 1s} 99. Rh8 {0.00/14 1s} Kg5 {+0.95/9 1s}
100. Ra8 {0.00/15 1s} Rh2 {+1.18/10 1s} 101. Ra5+ {0.00/14
0s} Kh4 {+1.16/11 1s} 102. Ra8 {0.00/15 1s} Rb2 {+0.89/10
2s} 103. Rh8+ {0.00/16 1s} Kg3 {+0.83/11 0s} 104. Rg8+
{0.00/17 1s} Kh3 {+0.86/11 0s} 105. Rh8+ {0.00/17 1s} Kg4
{+0.42/11 0s} 106. Ra8 {0.00/16 1s} Rc2 {+0.87/9 1s}
107. Rh8 {0.00/16 1s} Ra2 {+0.92/10 1s} 108. Rd8 {0.00/15
1s} Kf5 {+0.93/9 1s} 109. Rh8 {0.00/14 0s} Ke5 {+0.93/9 1s}
110. Rd8 {0.00/15 1s} Rh2 {+1.13/9 1s} 111. Ra8 {0.00/14
1s} Rd2 {+0.92/9 2s} 112. Rh8 {0.00/14 1s} Rb2 {+0.67/9 1s}
113. Ra8 {0.00/14 0s} Rh2 {+1.24/9 1s} 114. Ra5+ {0.00/15
1s} Kf4 {+1.35/9 0s} 115. Ra8 {0.00/16 1s} Rc2 {+0.88/10
1s} 116. Rh8 {0.00/16 1s} Kg4 {+0.87/9 1s} 117. Ra8
{0.00/16 1s} Rb2 {+0.89/9 0s} 118. Rh8 {0.00/16 0s} Kf4
{+0.86/9 0s} 119. Ra8 {0.00/15 0s} Rh2 {+1.13/9 0s time} 0-1

[Event "40 Moves in 1 min"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2006.09.25"]
[Round "87"]
[White "Movei 365"]
[Black "Glaurung 1.2.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "nnqrbkrb/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/NNQRBKRB w GDgd -"]

1. Nb3 {+0.03/10 1s} d5 {-0.15/11 2s} 2. d4 {+0.25/9 0s}
Nb6 {-0.15/11 3s} 3. Nc3 {+0.13/9 2s} g5 {-0.14/11 5s}
4. O-O {+0.19/9 2s} Nc6 {-0.01/11 4s} 5. f3 {+0.09/8 1s} f5
{+0.12/10 3s} 6. Bf2 {+0.10/8 1s} Bf7 {+0.10/10 2s} 7. g3
{+0.12/9 1s} h6 {-0.04/10 3s} 8. Bg2 {+0.19/9 1s} Bh5
{+0.04/10 2s} 9. f4 {+0.37/9 2s} e6 {+0.03/10 1s} 10. fxg5
{+0.63/10 2s} hxg5 {+0.28/11 1s} 11. Nc5 {+0.68/9 1s} Nc4
{+0.28/11 1s} 12. b3 {+0.61/8 1s} Nd6 {+0.37/10 1s} 13. Qe3
{+0.41/8 2s} Re8 {+0.40/10 1s} 14. Qc1 {+0.32/8 1s} Ke7
{+0.54/9 1s} 15. Kh1 {+0.64/8 2s} Kd8 {+0.84/10 1s} 16. Qa3
{+0.52/8 1s} Re7 {+0.76/10 1s} 17. b4 {+0.60/8 1s} a6
{+0.81/9 1s} 18. Qb3 {+0.63/8 1s} Rf8 {+0.78/9 1s} 19. Be3
{+0.22/8 1s} Bf6 {+0.60/9 1s} 20. Bg1 {+0.16/8 1s} Na7
{+0.93/8 1s} 21. Rb1 {+0.26/8 1s} b6 {+1.40/10 0s} 22. N5a4
{-0.14/9 2s} Nc6 {+1.32/10 2s} 23. Rbd1 {-0.48/8 1s} Bg4
{+1.39/9 0s} 24. Bf3 {-0.47/8 0s} Bh3 {+1.54/10 0s} 25. Bg2
{-0.52/9 1s} Bxg2+ {+1.75/10 1s} 26. Kxg2 {-0.61/4 0s} g4
{+1.71/10 0s} 27. Kh1 {-0.49/9 0s} Rh7 {+1.85/10 0s} 28. e3
{-0.41/9 1s} Rfh8 {+1.87/9 0s} 29. Ne2 {-0.46/9 1s} Rh3
{+1.87/9 0s} 30. Nac3 {-0.51/9 1s} Bg5 {+2.28/9 0s} 31. Rd3
{-0.59/8 1s} Qd7 {+2.35/9 0s} 32. Qa4 {-0.82/8 1s} b5
{+2.82/9 0s} 33. Qb3 {-0.90/9 0s} Nc4 {+2.46/9 0s} 34. Nd1
{-1.13/8 1s} Qh7 {+2.60/8 0s} 35. Rf2 {-1.19/9 1s} Be7
{+2.60/8 0s} 36. Nf4 {-0.88/8 0s} Nxb4 {+2.40/8 0s}
37. Nxh3 {-1.86/10 3s} Qxh3 {+2.04/9 0s} 38. Rc3 {-0.66/8
0s} Nc6 {+1.78/8 0s} 39. Rg2 {-0.63/7 0s} Bb4 {+1.87/7 0s}
40. Rd3 {-0.49/8 1s time} 1-0

[Event "40 Moves in 1 min"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2006.09.25"]
[Round "27"]
[White "Movei 365"]
[Black "Glaurung 1.2.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "qnnbrkbr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/QNNBRKBR w HEhe -"]

1. Nc3 {+0.18/9 1s} e5 {-0.12/12 6s} 2. e4 {+0.16/9 2s} Nb6
{-0.09/11 2s} 3. f3 {+0.13/8 1s} Bg5 {+0.04/11 3s} 4. Bxb6
{+0.25/8 1s} axb6 {+0.35/12 2s} 5. Nd5 {+0.08/9 1s} Na6
{+0.35/11 1s} 6. Nb3 {-0.12/9 2s} f5 {+0.60/11 1s} 7. h4
{-0.19/9 1s} Bh6 {+1.01/11 2s} 8. c4 {-0.18/9 2s} c6
{+1.20/11 2s} 9. Nxb6 {-1.04/10 1s} Qd8 {+1.65/12 1s}
10. Na4 {-1.15/10 2s} Bxc4+ {+1.70/11 1s} 11. Be2 {-1.12/9
0s} Bxb3 {+1.87/12 2s} 12. axb3 {-1.12/9 0s} fxe4 {+1.96/11
1s} 13. Bxa6 {-1.29/8 1s} bxa6 {+1.78/10 1s} 14. Rxe4
{-1.26/9 1s} O-O {+1.81/11 1s} 15. Qc1 {-1.29/8 1s} d5
{+1.67/10 2s} 16. Re2 {-1.35/9 1s} Qd6 {+1.92/10 1s}
17. Qc5 {-1.12/8 1s} Qg6 {+2.04/10 0s} 18. Nc3 {-1.23/8 0s}
Re6 {+2.06/10 2s} 19. Qa7 {-1.29/8 1s} Ref6 {+2.20/8 0s}
20. Ke1 {-1.67/8 1s} Qd3 {+3.25/8 0s} 21. Rh3 {-2.23/8 1s}
e4 {+3.21/8 1s} 22. Qb7 {-2.07/7 0s} Qc2 {+3.60/8 0s}
23. d4 {-2.21/8 1s} Qd3 {+3.90/9 1s} 24. Nxd5 {-2.52/8 1s}
Qb1+ {+3.89/8 1s} 25. Kf2 {-2.51/4 0s} cxd5 {+3.71/8 0s}
26. Qxd5+ {-2.31/9 0s} Kh8 {+3.48/10 1s} 27. Qxe4 {-2.42/9
0s} Qd1 {+3.10/9 1s} 28. Qd5 {-2.46/8 1s} Rb6 {+4.06/7 0s}
29. Qc5 {-2.42/8 1s} Rbb8 {+3.79/8 0s} 30. b4 {-2.74/8 1s}
Rbc8 {+4.51/8 1s} 31. Qe5 {-3.07/8 0s} Rc1 {+4.54/8 1s}
32. Kg3 {-2.95/8 1s} Qg1 {+3.82/8 1s} 33. h5 {-2.79/8 1s}
Rc6 {+3.98/8 1s} 34. Rh4 {-2.58/9 1s} Rcf6 {+3.56/8 0s}
35. f4 {-2.73/10 1s} Qc1 {+3.71/8 0s} 36. Rf2 {-2.57/9 1s}
Rf5 {+3.50/8 0s} 37. Qe4 {-2.73/8 1s} Bg5 {+3.48/8 0s}
38. Rg4 {-2.75/9 1s} Bd8 {+3.68/8 0s} 39. Rc2 {-1.98/10 3s}
Qh1 {+3.50/8 0s} 40. Rc5 {-2.40/9 2s time} 1-0

[Uri Blass]

For comparison winboard can be trusted

Here are 4 games of movei at time control of 1 seconds for all the game(games were played with no opening book)

Herman took revenge at 2 seconds per game when it beated movei 2.5-1.5 but I do not post the games here.
I guess that I can probably improve movei's result by disabling the logfile.

I think that it may be interesting if people are interested in doing nunn based rating list based on very fast time control like 1 second per game.

Note that Hermann beated pharaon 4-0 on the same conditions
and I also give the games

Gerenal options are not the default and I diables animation and check legality

options that are marked with v

1)all the 3 options that begin with auto
2)Extra info in move history
3)HighLight last move
4)periodic updates
5)popup exit message
6)Show button bar



[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "1"]
[White "movei00_8_365"]
[Black "Hermann 1.7"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. e4 d5 2. Nc3 d4 3. Nd5 e6 4. Nf4 Nc6 5. Nf3 e5 6. Nd3 Bd6 7. b4 f5 8. b5
fxe4 9. bxc6 exd3 10. Bxd3 Nf6 11. Qe2 Qe7 12. cxb7 Bxb7 13. Rb1 Bd5 14.
Bc4 O-O 15. Bxd5+ Nxd5 16. O-O Nf4 17. Qc4+ Kh8 18. d3 c5 19. Bxf4 Rxf4 20.
Rfe1 a6 21. Qd5 Raf8 22. Rb6 R8f6 23. Rxa6 h6 24. Ra8+ Kh7 25. Qg8+ Kg6 26.
Qc8 Rf8 27. Qc6 Kh7 28. Ra6 Rd8 29. Rb6 Kh8 30. Rb7 Qf6 31. Qd5 e4 32. dxe4
Rxf3 33. e5 Rf5 34. Qxd6 Rxd6 35. exf6 Rdxf6 36. Re8+ Kh7 37. f3 Rf7 38.
Reb8 Rxb7 39. Rxb7 Re5 40. Kf2 Kg6 41. a4 Re8 42. a5 Ra8 43. Rb6+ Kf5 44.
Rb5 Rc8 45. a6 Kf6 46. Rb6+ Ke5 47. Ke2
{White wins on time} 1-0

[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hermann 1.7"]
[Black "movei00_8_365"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Bf5 4. Nh4 Be6 5. Bf4 Nf6 6. e3 a6 7. Be2 b5 8.
O-O b4 9. Na4 Bc8 10. c4 e6 11. Qc2 Bb7 12. Nf3 Bd6 13. cxd5 Nxd5 14. Bg5
f6 15. Bh4 g5 16. Bg3 g4 17. Nd2 Bxg3 18. hxg3 f5 19. Nc5 Qc8 20. Nxa6 Nxd4
21. exd4 Bxa6 22. Bxa6 Qxa6 23. a4 O-O 24. Rfe1 Rfd8 25. Nb3 Rd6 26. Nc5
Qb6 27. Qc1 Kh8 28. Qg5 b3 29. Ra3 Qb4 30. Rd1 Rg8 31. Qh4 Ra8 32. Rxb3 Qc4
33. Qg5 Qe2 34. Qd2 Qxd2 35. Rxd2 Nb6 36. Rb4 e5 37. f4 e4 38. b3 Kg7 39.
Ra2 Kf6 40. Kf2 Re8 41. a5 Nd5 42. Rc4 Kg7 43. a6 Nb6 44. Rb4 Nd5 45. Rb7
e3+ 46. Ke1 Rh6 47. Ke2
{Black wins on time} 0-1

[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "3"]
[White "movei00_8_365"]
[Black "Hermann 1.7"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Qd3 Bb4 5. Ne5 O-O 6. a3 Bxc3+ 7. Qxc3 Ne4
8. Qf3 f6 9. Nd3 e5 10. dxe5 fxe5 11. Qe3 Nc6 12. f3 Qh4+ 13. Kd1 Ng3 14.
Qf2 Nf5 15. Qxh4 Nxh4 16. Bg5 Ng6 17. e4 dxe4 18. fxe4 Bg4+ 19. Be2 Bxe2+
20. Kxe2 a5 21. Rhf1 Rfe8 22. Rad1 Nd4+ 23. Kd2 Ne6 24. Rf5 Nd4 25. Rf2 b6
26. Rdf1 h6 27. Be3 Ne6 28. Rf7 Nh8 29. R7f5 g6 30. Rf6 Ng5 31. Bxg5 hxg5
32. Rc6 Re7 33. Rff6 Rd8 34. Ke2 Kh7 35. Rce6 Rde8 36. Rxe7+ Rxe7 37. b4
Nf7 38. bxa5 Kg7 39. Rf1 Kf6
{White wins on time} 1-0

[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Hermann 1.7"]
[Black "movei00_8_365"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Bf5 3. Nh4 Bg4 4. h3 Be6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. g4 Nf6 7. Bf4 h5 8.
Nb5 Rc8 9. g5 Ne4 10. Bg2 f6 11. Ng6 Rh7 12. h4 Bf5 13. Bh3 Bxh3 14. Rxh3
fxg5 15. hxg5 e6 16. e3 a6 17. Nxc7+ Rxc7 18. Bxc7 Qxg5 19. Qe2 Qxg6 20.
O-O-O Bd6 21. Bxd6 Nxd6 22. Rdh1 Qe4 23. Rxh5 Qxh1+ 24. Rxh1 Rxh1+ 25. Qd1
Rxd1+ 26. Kxd1 Ke7 27. a4 Kf6 28. Ke2 Kf5 29. c3 e5 30. dxe5 Kxe5 31. f3
Ke6 32. b3 Na5 33. b4 Nac4 34. Kf2 Nb2 35. a5 Nd1+ 36. Ke2
{White resigns} 0-1


[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Hermann 1.7"]
[Black "Pharaon 3.5.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Bf5 4. e3 Nc6 5. Bb5 Qd6 6. Ne5 g6 7. O-O Bg7 8.
f3 a6 9. Bxc6+ bxc6 10. Bd2 Nd7 11. f4 Rb8 12. Na4 O-O 13. b4 Be4 14. Nc3
Nf6 15. Nxe4 Nxe4 16. Nd3 f5 17. c4 dxc4 18. Nc5 Nxc5 19. bxc5 Qd5 20. a4
Rb2 21. Qc1 Rfb8 22. Rf3 Bf6 23. Bc3 R2b3 24. Qe1 Qe4 25. Rc1 Qd3 26. Kh1
Rxc3 27. Rd1 Qc2 28. a5 Rb2 29. Qf1 Qe2 30. Qg1 Rcc2 31. Rg3
{White wins on time} 1-0

[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Pharaon 3.5.1"]
[Black "Hermann 1.7"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Bg2 Bf5 5. Bf4 e6 6. Nf3 Bb4 7. O-O O-O 8.
Nh4 Bxc3 9. bxc3 Nh5 10. Bd2 Nf6 11. Nxf5 exf5 12. Bg5 f4 13. Bxf4 Nh5 14.
Bd2 Re8 15. Rb1 b6 16. Rb5 Ne7 17. c4 c6 18. Rb4 f5 19. e4 a5 20. Rb1 g6
21. exd5 cxd5 22. Bg5 Ra7 23. Bxd5+ Kg7 24. Bc6 Rf8 25. Qd2 Kg8 26. Bd5+
Kh8 27. Rb5 Nf6 28. Be6 Qd6 29. d5 Ra6 30. Qd4 Ng8
{Black wins on time} 0-1

[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Hermann 1.7"]
[Black "Pharaon 3.5.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 Bf5 4. Bg5 h6 5. Bf4 g5 6. Bg3 Nf6 7. e3 Nc6 8.
Nb5 Rc8 9. Bd3 Be4 10. O-O a6 11. Nc3 Bg7 12. Ne5 Bxd3 13. Qxd3 Nb4 14. Qd2
Nh5 15. a3 Nxg3 16. hxg3 Nc6 17. Nxc6 bxc6 18. Qd3 Ra8 19. b4 Qd7 20. Rfe1
h5 21. e4 h4 22. e5 hxg3 23. Qxg3 Qf5 24. Rec1 Rh4 25. Ne2 Qh7 26. f3 g4
27. e6 gxf3 28. gxf3 fxe6 29. Qxc7 Rh1+ 30. Kg2 Qh3+ 31. Kf2
{White wins on time} 1-0

[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2006.09.26"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Pharaon 3.5.1"]
[Black "Hermann 1.7"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Bg2 Bf5 5. Bf4 Nb4 6. Rc1 Ne4 7. Nxe4 Bxe4
8. Bxe4 dxe4 9. c3 Nd5 10. Qb3 Nxf4 11. gxf4 b6 12. Qb5+ Qd7 13. Qe5 Qc6
14. f3 exf3 15. Nxf3 e6 16. f5 O-O-O 17. fxe6 Qxe6 18. Qxe6+ fxe6 19. Ne5
Be7 20. Nf7 Bh4+ 21. Kd2 h5 22. Nxh8 Rxh8 23. Rhg1 g5 24. Rcf1 g4 25. Rf7
b5 26. Kd3 Kb7 27. Ke4 Kb6 28. Ke5 Re8 29. Rh7 Rd8 30. e4 Bf2
{Black wins on time} 0-1

[Daniel Mehrmann]

Hi Uri,

i never had such problems with the shredder GUI over year's. I'm not testing 1min/40 moves, but i'm testing 1+1 sudden death and no times loses anyway.

Do you run latest version ? (check for internet update)

btw: Which protocol used by Movei ?
WB2 ? You should know WB2 support isn't really good in the Shredder GUI. (The shredder FUI is basicly a UCI gui and no wb2 )
UCI ? How stable is your UCI support now ? (bugfree)

Best
Daniel

[Uri Blass]

Hi Uri,

i never had such problems with the shredder GUI over year's. I'm not testing 1min/40 moves, but i'm testing 1+1 sudden death and no times loses anyway.

Do you run latest version ? (check for internet update)

btw: Which protocol used by Movei ?
WB2 ? You should know WB2 support isn't really good in the Shredder GUI. (The shredder FUI is basicly a UCI gui and no wb2 )
UCI ? How stable is your UCI support now ? (bugfree)

Best
Daniel

Movei used UCI protocol under shredder gui but I found based on the logfile that the interface used something like 0.1-0.2 seconds per move

It is no problem at 1+1 time control because movei is careful never to use more than 0.5 of the remaining time in 1 move but it can be a problem in 1 minutes/40 moves.

I think that the problem is of shredder gui otherwise I could see the problem only in movei but I could find it also with Glaurung and Ufim.

I also did not find the same problem with 1+1 time control but I also know that x minutes/40 moves is popular time control(CEGT CCRL WBEC) so I wanted to test at that time control.

Uri