Forum Language / Sprache

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Native Language / Muttersprache

Poll ended at 23 Sep 2007, 15:56

English / Englisch
11
73%
German / Deutsch
2
13%
other / sonstige
2
13%
 
Total votes : 15

Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Reinhard Scharnagl » 02 Sep 2007, 15:56

Eng.: Are here more native German language speakers than English language speakers?

Deu.: Gibt es hier mehr Personen deutscher als englischer Muttersprache?

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Re: Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Volker Pittlik » 02 Sep 2007, 16:30

Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:Eng.: Are here more native German language speakers than English language speakers?

Deu.: Gibt es hier mehr Personen deutscher als englischer Muttersprache?

Reinhard.


I doubt you will find out this by a poll. I have log files. In the last month there were accesses from the following countires (descending):

United States
France
Netherlands
Germany
Australia
Italy
Great Britain
Norway
Latvia
Spain
Jamaica
South Korea
Taiwan
Malaysia
Switzerland
Denmark
South Africa
Brazil
Canada
Hungary
Poland
Sweden
Russian Federation
Belgium
Japan
Kuwait
Mexico
Argentina
Israel
European Union
Hong Kong
Austria
Greece
Yugoslavia
Singapore
Finland
China
India
Colombia
Philippines
Estonia
Sri Lanka
United Arab Emirates
Madagascar
Ireland

But I don't understand the purpose of this poll at all. Do you think about a "Deutschsprachiger Bereich" as in Rybka and Hiarcs forum? I do so too, but as a matter of fact we have to notice that if we want to be be understood by the most people English is the language to use.

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Re: Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Reinhard Scharnagl » 02 Sep 2007, 16:59

Volker Pittlik wrote:
Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:Eng.: Are here more native German language speakers than English language speakers? ...

... But I don't understand the purpose of this poll at all. Do you think about a "Deutschsprachiger Bereich" as in Rybka and Hiarcs forum? I do so too, but as a matter of fact we have to notice that if we want to be be understood by the most people English is the language to use. ...

Hi Volker,

as you might know, I had been supporting four languages within my outdated Smirf-GUI. Moreover most of my Chess related web pages have been published in German and English language, too. I had done this, because I hoped for some followers to make their still English only pages also bilingual, but unfortunately I have not seen any yet.

Thus - in my personal experience - supporting English seems to be counter productive in regard of having more bilingual / international Chess pages created inside the WWW. Therefore I think it would be unfair, to support mainly English only speaking people by pages additionally been published in their language.

This forum promised to be a good place for to get an overview on native language speakers of languages I would be able to support then in my (far away) coming successor application OCTOPUS and its related to be written web pages.

Currently I am intending to support Esperanto rather than English as a second offered language around my activities.

That are the reasons for my poll.

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Re: Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Marc Lacrosse » 02 Sep 2007, 18:13

Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:Hi Volker,

As you might know, I had been supporting four languages within my outdated Smirf-GUI. Moreover most of my Chess related web pages have been published in German and English language, too.
Reinhard.

(...)


Hi Reinhard

For what regards myself my pages are in english although I am not that fluent with that language (my native language is french).

Whatever we may think about it the true esperanto of our time is english ...

If you publish some post in german I have little of no chance to understand fully what you mean.
And if an ukrainian or thai member writes here in his native language 99% of us will be lost.

I frequently regret not to be able to participate in some dicussions because I am not able to find the words for what i would wish to be somewhat subtle. But in that case i think it's better not to speak at all than switching to french which few will understand.

My two cents ...

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Re: Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Nicolai Czempin » 02 Sep 2007, 18:30

oh, sorry.

I clicked on English by mistake.

My native language is German, but I prefer English in the forums.
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Re: Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Reinhard Scharnagl » 02 Sep 2007, 18:42

Marc Lacrosse wrote:
Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:Hi Volker,

As you might know, I had been supporting four languages within my outdated Smirf-GUI. Moreover most of my Chess related web pages have been published in German and English language, too.
Reinhard. (...)
... Whatever we may think about it the true esperanto of our time is english ...

Hello Marc,

well, you are doing a bilingual approach like me, when chosing a second language for to communicate. But chosing English seems (for my point of view) a bad selection, because this seems not to have any effect on native english speaking people to also learn another language, e.g. German, which is the most spreaded native language in pure European countries.

So trying the English path to have more international / bilingual chess pages for me has had no success.

It is a question of priority: I am more interested to be understood by people open for other cultures and languages than to be understood by a big number of internationally uninterested people.

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Re: Forum Language / Sprache

Postby Reinhard Scharnagl » 02 Sep 2007, 18:45

Hi Nicolai,

may be I have made my intentions for polling not enough clear. I am not having a voting for an 'optimal' forum language, but instead for the distribution of native languages of forum users.

Voting for a prefered language here thus is devaluating that poll.

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