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OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Volker Pittlik » 11 Apr 2005, 20:40

Some of you may have noticed that this forum isn't reachable several times daily for a shorter or longer period of time. It has been most annoying at Easter when it wasn't reachable for hours.

The hoster send an explanation to me that they have updated their servers. However, I've noticed that there isn't a single day without blackouts. This behaviour is bothersome and not acceptable at all.

If they can't find a solution this forum is going to move again.

With best regards

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Hartmut Woldeit » 11 Apr 2005, 21:55

Thanks for the info,

thought my new installed Firefox caused the problem... But it did not.

Best greetings

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A request to everyone

Postby Volker Pittlik » 12 Apr 2005, 15:29

My hoster wrtote me that they are not aware of any problems, but they will observe it. To support them (and hopefully find out what is going wrong) I have a wish:

If someone notice the forum is not reachable (even only for minutes), please just write it down here in this thread. Please also tell us what browser and operating system you are using.

Thanks in advance

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby MartinB » 14 Apr 2005, 19:36

The forum just wast unreachable for some minutes (20.32 CET)

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Volker Pittlik » 14 Apr 2005, 19:37

Martin Baumung wrote:The forum just wast unreachable for some minutes (20.32 CET)

Firefox 1.0.2 / Windows XP Pro SP2


Thanks for your feedback. I am going to observe it a while and then report it to the hoster.

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Re: A request to everyone

Postby Anonymous » 14 Apr 2005, 23:47

Volker Pittlik wrote:My hoster wrtote me that they are not aware of any problems, but they will observe it. To support them (and hopefully find out what is going wrong) I have a wish:

If someone notice the forum is not reachable (even only for minutes), please just write it down here in this thread. Please also tell us what browser and operating system you are using.

Thanks in advance

Volker


I estimate 10% of the times i try to come to this forum, i am unable to reach it.

WinME, Internet Explorer 6.0

Regards
Dave
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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Ross Boyd » 18 Apr 2005, 11:09

Hi Volker,

Just had problems connecting to this site. It took 3 connection attempts before success.

I'm using Win XP SP2 and Mozilla Firefox 1.0.2 browser on a 512Kb broadband line.

Its 8PM Sydney time (that's GMT+10)

Cheers,

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby MartinB » 18 Apr 2005, 19:56

The forum was not reachable from 20.49h when I first tried it until 20.54h. Times are CET.

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Anonymous » 18 Apr 2005, 22:35

I tried a couple of times during the last 2 hours, and failed until now. Perhaps the following traceroute outputs can be useful. Times were bad at the first try - I was downloading then with the modem.

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Dieter>tracert wbform.volker-pittlik.name

Routenverfolgung zu wbform.volker-pittlik.name [213.203.212.179] ?ber maximal 3
0 Abschnitte:

1 1838 ms 1760 ms 1780 ms bln2-d3-1.mcbone.net [62.104.208.36]
2 1839 ms 1780 ms 1780 ms G2-0.bln2-g2.mcbone.net [62.104.208.6]
3 1899 ms 1819 ms 1780 ms lo0-0.hnv2-j2.mcbone.net [62.104.191.206]
4 1839 ms 1779 ms 1760 ms L0.hmb2-g2.mcbone.net [62.104.191.144]
5 1839 ms 1780 ms 1759 ms workix.inetbone.net [213.238.34.17]
6 1779 ms 1780 ms 1819 ms l0.edge1.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.192.89]
7 1839 ms 1839 ms 2480 ms ge-10-0-0.core1.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.19
2.221]
8 1939 ms 2140 ms 1780 ms fe-0-0.customer5.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.1
92.196]
9 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
10 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
11 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
12 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
13 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
14 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
15 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
16 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
17 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
18 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
19 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
20 * * 985 ms jota.dynamic-net.ch [213.203.212.179]

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Dieter>tracert wbform.volker-pittlik.name

Routenverfolgung zu wbform.volker-pittlik.name [213.203.212.179] ?ber maximal 3
0 Abschnitte:

1 1635 ms 219 ms 219 ms bln2-d3-1.mcbone.net [62.104.208.36]
2 361 ms 219 ms 219 ms G2-0.bln2-g2.mcbone.net [62.104.208.6]
3 1239 ms 219 ms 239 ms lo0-0.hnv2-j2.mcbone.net [62.104.191.206]
4 366 ms 219 ms 1840 ms L0.hmb2-g2.mcbone.net [62.104.191.144]
5 239 ms 240 ms 239 ms workix.inetbone.net [213.238.34.17]
6 380 ms 1920 ms 239 ms l0.edge1.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.192.89]
7 226 ms 239 ms 220 ms ge-10-0-0.core1.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.19
2.221]
8 1544 ms 279 ms 399 ms fe-0-0.customer5.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.1
92.196]
9 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
10 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
11 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
12 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
13 * * * Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
14 fe-0-0.customer5.dus1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.192.196] meldet: Zielhost n
icht erreichbar.

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Dieter>time
Aktuelle Zeit: 22:32:28,72
Geben Sie die neue Zeit ein:

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Dieter>date
Aktuelles Datum: 18.04.2005

Cheers,
Dieter
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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby F.Huber » 18 Apr 2005, 22:40

Hallo Volker,

ich mu? mich hier leider auch anschlie?en: :(

Heute nachmittag schon ein Ausfall, und bis jetzt eben auch wieder, und zwar fast eine ganze Stunde lang!
Liegt das WB-Forum etwa im Sterben? :evil:

Gru?,
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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Chris Tatham » 18 Apr 2005, 23:14

Hi Volker :)

I tried several times and couldn't access the forum between 9pm and 11pm (BST) (Monday).

IE6 / Win XP

Best wishes


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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Volker Pittlik » 19 Apr 2005, 06:11

Thank you all for your feedback!

I also noticed this new blackout which lastet approximately two hours. I neither got an announcement that the server was updated nor any other notification from thwe hoster. This is not acceptable at all.

I'm going to search for an alternative.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards

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My statistics

Postby Volker Pittlik » 19 Apr 2005, 06:13

For documentation:

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C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>ping www.volker-pittlik.name

Ping www.volker-pittlik.name [213.203.212.179] mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.

Ping-Statistik f?r 213.203.212.179:
    Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),
Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Mittelwert =  0ms

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>time
Aktuelle Zeit: 21:21:30.49

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>ping www.volker-pittlik.name
Unbekannter Host www.volker-pittlik.name.

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>time
Aktuelle Zeit: 21:26:55.74
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>ping www.volker-pittlik.name

Ping www.volker-pittlik.name [213.203.212.179] mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.

Ping-Statistik f?r 213.203.212.179:
    Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),
Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Mittelwert =  0ms

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>time
Aktuelle Zeit: 21:44:18.98
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ping www.volker-pittlik.name [213.203.212.179] mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.

Ping-Statistik f?r 213.203.212.179:
    Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),
Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Mittelwert =  0ms

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>time
Aktuelle Zeit: 21:59:13.98
_-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>ping www.volker-pittlik.name

Ping www.volker-pittlik.name [213.203.212.179] mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit?berschreitung der Anforderung.

Ping-Statistik f?r 213.203.212.179:
    Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),
Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Mittelwert =  0ms

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Volker>time
Aktuelle Zeit: 22:20:54.46
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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Olivier Deville » 19 Apr 2005, 06:38

Hi Volker

The forum was unavailable during several hours yesterday :evil:

Sorry, but what sort of hoster is yours ? Are they amateurs ?

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Volker Pittlik » 19 Apr 2005, 09:01

Olivier Deville wrote:Hi Volker
...
Sorry, but what sort of hoster is yours ? Are they amateurs ?
...


I send another complaint to them and wait for an explanation. I hope they didn't hire their personnel here: http://www.newtechusa.com/ppi/talent.asp.

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DDoS Attack

Postby Volker Pittlik » 19 Apr 2005, 10:45

My hoster just informed me that the blackout was a result of a DDoS attack. So it seems the hoster is not accountable for the blackout.

To learn more about this kind of attacks please look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddos (English),

or here: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,339683,00.html (German).

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Reinhard Scharnagl » 19 Apr 2005, 12:31

Volker,

if that was true there must have been here a lot of DDoS attacks during the last time. As far as I know such attacks mostly have been directed to big and well known companies. Is your hoster one of them?

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Volker Pittlik » 19 Apr 2005, 14:05

Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:Volker,

if that was true there must have been here a lot of DDoS attacks during the last time. As far as I know such attacks mostly have been directed to big and well known companies. Is your hoster one of them?

Reinhard.


It's a medium sized Swiss/German company (Dynamic-net). It's recommended here: http://www.ayom.com/topic-796.html. Such attacks have been performed also on the servers of one of the other mentioned companies. To execute such an attack seems not to be very complicated. Search a bit and you will find instructions how to do it. In additon the attacker isn't easy to get. Remember also this forum has been cracked some weeks ago.

However, if the short-time blackouts continue I have to look for an alternative. Unfortunately offers with a guaranteed up-time are much more expensive and I have no intention to go commercial in one form or another.


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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby MartinB » 14 May 2005, 16:41

Hello Volker,

during the past weeks I've noticed that the forum is very often unreachable at 32 minutes past the hour :shock:

Only for a short period of time, but it's definitely not reachable.

Best wishes,

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Re: OT: Complaint to my hoster

Postby Guenther Simon » 23 May 2005, 15:37

Connection refused between 16:34 and 16:35 German time.

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