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Zappa Update for Win98

Postby Volker Pittlik » 25 Feb 2005, 10:34

Anthony sent me an update of his engine which should work under Win98 now.

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Re: Zappa Update for Win98

Postby F.Huber » 25 Feb 2005, 10:55

Volker Pittlik wrote:Anthony sent me an update of his engine which should work under Win98 now.

Yes, it works now! :D

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Works with old processors too

Postby Anonymous » 25 Feb 2005, 11:27

Hi,
this version works not only under Windows 98 but also on an old Pentium II.
Regards Dieter
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Re: Zappa Update for Win98

Postby Anonymous » 25 Feb 2005, 17:19

Volker Pittlik wrote:Anthony sent me an update of his engine which should work under Win98 now.

Regards

Volker


http://volker-pittlik.name/zappa/zappa.html


Thanks. Also now works under my WinME, P3.

:-)

Regards
Dave
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Re: Zappa Update for Win98

Postby Mike Scheidl » 25 Feb 2005, 17:23

Is the smaller Zappa book (2600gm.zbook) ok? :?: :?:

I saw book issues discussed in the other thread, but about the 13 MB book. What about the GM book?
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Zappa for Windows 98

Postby Pablo » 25 Feb 2005, 20:02

Hello:
!! Albricias, Hurra,Eureka !!! :D, at last this Zappa version works with Pentium II and III and Intel Celeron in Windows 98. Only restriction with Celeron ,needs winboard incremental clock to play in my PC.
Thanks Anthony,
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Re: Zappa Update for Win98

Postby Volker Pittlik » 25 Feb 2005, 20:31

Mike Scheidl wrote:Is the smaller Zappa book (2600gm.zbook) ok? :?: :?:

I saw book issues discussed in the other thread, but about the 13 MB book. What about the GM book?


It looks "normal".

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Probed book successfully (10 entries / 216 bytes / 0 ms). Selected move e2-e4
e2-e4   34.5%    [ 56.3%, +2725, -1579, =4855]
d2-d4   42.5%    [ 55.2%, +3228, -2014, =6480]
c2-c4   10.7%    [ 55.6%, +789, -463, =1644]
Ng1-f3  11.7%    [ 55.5%, +800, -451, =1946]
b2-b3    0.1%    [ 47.5%, +11, -13, =16]
g2-g3    0.5%    [ 50.7%, +38, -36, =75]
Nb1-c3   0.0%    [ 58.3%, +2, -1, =3]
f2-f4    0.0%    [ 44.1%, +4, -6, =7]
b2-b4    0.0%    [ 37.5%, +1, -3, =4]
c2-c3    0.0%    [ 30.0%, +1, -3, =1]


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Re: Zappa Update for Win98

Postby Mike Scheidl » 25 Feb 2005, 20:48

Volker Pittlik wrote:It looks "normal".

Thx, I think I will use it if i'd do a "own books" tournament.
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Re: Zappa Update for Win98

Postby Arturo Ochoa M » 26 Feb 2005, 20:13

Volker Pittlik wrote:
Mike Scheidl wrote:Is the smaller Zappa book (2600gm.zbook) ok? :?: :?:

I saw book issues discussed in the other thread, but about the 13 MB book. What about the GM book?


It looks "normal".

Code: Select all
Probed book successfully (10 entries / 216 bytes / 0 ms). Selected move e2-e4
e2-e4   34.5%    [ 56.3%, +2725, -1579, =4855]
d2-d4   42.5%    [ 55.2%, +3228, -2014, =6480]
c2-c4   10.7%    [ 55.6%, +789, -463, =1644]
Ng1-f3  11.7%    [ 55.5%, +800, -451, =1946]
b2-b3    0.1%    [ 47.5%, +11, -13, =16]
g2-g3    0.5%    [ 50.7%, +38, -36, =75]
Nb1-c3   0.0%    [ 58.3%, +2, -1, =3]
f2-f4    0.0%    [ 44.1%, +4, -6, =7]
b2-b4    0.0%    [ 37.5%, +1, -3, =4]
c2-c3    0.0%    [ 30.0%, +1, -3, =1]


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:!: Hello Volker & others:

Collecting all the feedback of the people regarding to the big public book, I talked with Anthony Cozzie last night.

Some decisions have been made relate to this issue. The current public big book was the first version of a tuned book. It was supposed to be updated from time to time.

Since people prefer more "normal" openings, Anthony Cozzie will publish a big book generated from a pgn file without nags in the coming days. That is, the current big public book will be substituted by the coming one.
This new book is just a random book without any tuning done by hand.

If I understand correctly, "normal" means known or usual openings. It does not mean that the openings chosen in the current public book were inferior.

I think that this message was required so people are clear and happy with the Zappa?s openings. :)

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Replacing the current public book, why?

Postby Anonymous » 01 Mar 2005, 08:07

Arturo Ochoa M wrote:Some decisions have been made relate to this issue. The current public big book was the first version of a tuned book. It was supposed to be updated from time to time.

Since people prefer more "normal" openings, Anthony Cozzie will publish a big book generated from a pgn file without nags in the coming days. That is, the current big public book will be substituted by the coming one.
This new book is just a random book without any tuning done by hand.

Regards, Arturo.


Is this really a good decision? If the author of an engine releases a tuned book, I think the engine is preferably to play using that book, no matter how popular its openings are.
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Re: Replacing the current public book, why?

Postby Arturo Ochoa M » 01 Mar 2005, 21:20

Telmo wrote:
Arturo Ochoa M wrote:Some decisions have been made relate to this issue. The current public big book was the first version of a tuned book. It was supposed to be updated from time to time.

Since people prefer more "normal" openings, Anthony Cozzie will publish a big book generated from a pgn file without nags in the coming days. That is, the current big public book will be substituted by the coming one.
This new book is just a random book without any tuning done by hand.

Regards, Arturo.


Is this really a good decision? If the author of an engine releases a tuned book, I think the engine is preferably to play using that book, no matter how popular its openings are.


:( :? :| I agree with your point of view, but it is difficult to satisfy everybody :( I initially proposed Anothony to have a tuned book that could improve during the time. My feedback for this opening book would be the games played in Internet because it was the public book.

Some people were not happy because the current public book plays unusual sidelines that are not inferior in my humble opinion. Other people did not like that Zappa played, for example, a French Exchange because it was drawish and I told them that there were other lines against the French.

Finally, I talked with Anthony Cozzie about this issue and the final decision was to publish a random book with more usual openings but without tuning.

When Anthony has some free time in the coming days, he will update the public book with a random book. Is it covenient? My personal opinion is a random book is just that: No work, no maitenance, no improvements and it will play according to statistics derivated from the source pgn file.

It is not easy to satisfy everybody but a decision was made. I regret that I cannot satisfy everybody but it often happens. :(

Regards, Arturo Ochoa M.
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